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Old 24.06.2019, 10:28
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Weird indeed, some media claim "Fox News' Tucker Carlson Reportedly at Center of Trump's Decision Not to Bomb Iran".
If true, do more of the same.

Leaving aside the over over weird that a US President gets most of his intelligence briefings, advice and direction from Fox News hosts.
I think this is how Fox manages to keep Trump followers believing the magic. They criticize him now and then, sometimes for a whole minute or two, which gives the appearance that they're "fair and balanced". Compare that to CNN (one example) that tries to spin nearly everything Trump does as a negative. Their so-called conservative commentator that's part of any panel isn't really that conservative.
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Old 24.06.2019, 10:33
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I am glad the credit that the CNN used to get is not given for granted, anymore. At least that. The fact that the Tucker is home at Fox is pretty interesting on its own. Visibility.
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Old 24.06.2019, 11:59
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I am glad the credit that the CNN used to get is not given for granted, anymore. At least that. The fact that the Tucker is home at Fox is pretty interesting on its own. Visibility.
Not sure what you mean? Tucker has been at Fox since 2009.
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Old 24.06.2019, 12:01
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Not sure what you mean? Tucker has been at Fox since 2009.
Of course, and?

People diss FOX as the home of all idiocy, but it happens to be hosting Tucker, for that long. He isn't exactly brainless, is he.
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Old 24.06.2019, 12:12
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Of course, and?

People diss FOX as the home of all idiocy, but it happens to be hosting Tucker, for that long. He isn't exactly brainless, is he.
Not sure where you hear "People diss FOX as the home of all idiocy"?
There are some very clever people working for Fox; but that does not mean the opinion team is not biased.

Contrariwise the Fox news team headed by Shepard Smith is both excellent and unbiased.
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Of course, and?

People diss FOX as the home of all idiocy, but it happens to be hosting Tucker, for that long. He isn't exactly brainless, is he.
He ain't exactly smart either. He's shrill.

He generally gets on people he knows he can bully, and when he has to have someone on with a modicum of intellect, he gets owned hard...then waits a week, cuts a video of their interview, taking half-quotes from the other guy that appear ridiculous, refutes them and pretends he won. The master of the Treppenwitz.
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Contrariwise the Fox news team headed by Shepard Smith is both excellent and unbiased.
I agree with this.
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Old 24.06.2019, 14:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Let us take a moment to enjoy that time when Stewart pwned Tucker on CNN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
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Let us take a moment to enjoy that time when Stewart pwned Tucker on CNN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
That never gets old, Carlson lost the crossfire gig after that, you can see him get more and more flustered as Stewart takes him apart.
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Old 24.06.2019, 17:53
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A more extreme theory is that Trump would be the last Republican President!! Based on the fact that firstly he has destroyed the GOP image as the party of Fiscal thrift; he has increased the national Debt by more than $2 Trillion and is on track to increase it by more than Obama did despite claiming on the campaign trail he would wipe it out!
That claim never held much water to begin with. At least since Reagan, with the exception of Obama, the democratic POTUS' would right the budget and decrease federal indebtedness whereas the Reps would increase it.
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Old 24.06.2019, 18:27
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That claim never held much water to begin with. At least since Reagan, with the exception of Obama, the democratic POTUS' would right the budget and decrease federal indebtedness whereas the Reps would increase it.
Found this graph below, seems all Presidents increased debt
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That claim never held much water to begin with. At least since Reagan, with the exception of Obama, the democratic POTUS' would right the budget and decrease federal indebtedness whereas the Reps would increase it.
The only Democratic presidents since Reagan have been Clinton and Obama. Not a pattern, really.
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The only Democratic presidents since Reagan have been Clinton and Obama. Not a pattern, really.
4 terms. Admittedly not that much but better than waiting a century to get a double-digit number of events.

If you want to back a bit longer and include Nixon and Ford, for example, the picture doesn't change. The GOP's claim that they're fiscally prudent simply doesn't hold up. They fail left, right, and center.
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Found this graph below, seems all Presidents increased debt
First, linear scales are completely useless, usually outright deceiving, when it comes to values on the y-axis that increase multifold. Use a logarithmic scale instead or dump it immediately.

Absolute values are much less meaningful than relative ones. $1trillion additional debt is a footnote nowadays whereas it would have blown everybody's mind before Reagan. Hence not debt but indebtedness as a GDP percentage.

In the late '90ies the financial gurus and financial markets altogether were preparing for a time (believed to arrive very soon) without long-term US government bonds, and wondering what other benchmark to use for long-term interest rates. In fact the Fed had already stopped issuing 30yr bonds for some time when Clinton left.

And along came Dubiah.

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You would also have to normalize that figure to adjust for inflation and GDP growth, and compare as well debt as % of GDP.
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You would also have to normalize that figure to adjust for inflation and GDP growth, and compare as well debt as % of GDP.
The linear scale shows that when each President finished their term the debt was higher than when they started. None of them were fiscally prudent QED
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Old 25.06.2019, 09:46
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Of course, and?

People diss FOX as the home of all idiocy, but it happens to be hosting Tucker, for that long. He isn't exactly brainless, is he.
An opinion from an ex-insider
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Cameron retired from Fox News in 2017 after serving for 22 years as one of its chief political correspondents.

Said he joined Fox News in its early days because the "idea of fair and balanced news appealed to me."

"But over the years, the right-wing hosts drowned out straight journalism with partisan misinformation.
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President Trump said Monday that writer E. Jean Carroll was “totally lying” when she recently accused him of raping her during an encounter in a New York department store in the mid-1990s.

“I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, she’s not my type.
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So if she was his type then he would have raped her
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The allegations of E Jean Carrol bring the number of women alleging sexual misconduct against him to 16, so, Spanky fans, either you believe all 16 are lying, or a compulsive liar is telling the truth, take your time.

As much fun as it is to mock the Spanky fans for having to believe everything their hero says, to be one of his supporters means you have to be on board with the big stuff, you have to be ok with the sexual assaults, with the lies, with kids in cages, you have to be ok with him being ok with the horrific murder of journalists, you have to think it's ok that he attacks decorated war heroes and can't condemn racists.

'but at least he wasn't Hilary' is going to be a very poor defence when history turns its attention to how this administration survived.
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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Stock Market is heading for one of the best months (June) in the history of our Country. Thank you Mr. President!

2:11 PM - 25 Jun 2019
Such tweets are usually followed by the US stock market numbers collapsing; today follows the pattern!

Edit: all three major indices finished the day down, Dow by almost 200 points.

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Special counsel Robert Mueller will publicly testify in front of the House Judiciary and Intelligence committees on July 17 following a subpoena, the panels’ chairmen said Tuesday.

“Pursuant to subpoenas issued by the House Judiciary and House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence tonight, Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III has agreed to testify before both Committees on July 17 in open session
Pass the popcorn; should be a fun day!

Presumably Trump will try to block him? As Trump never actually interviewed with Mueller it will be difficult for him to claim executive privilege?
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President Trump is set to give a speech from the Lincoln Memorial, including a flyover from military jets, during the 4th July Independence Day festivities.

Activists got a permit to fly the 'Baby Trump' blimp over July 4 'Salute to Trump' celebration, the 20-foot diaper-clad balloon holding a cell phone has become a symbol at various events.
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Hope cable news get a good picture on the day!
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