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Mr. Muller will soon be given the opportunity to substantiate some of the wilder speculation in his report when he testifies before congress. And, anyway, isn't the most likely culprit for the DNC server "hack" / leak an insider wanting revenge for the deceitful treatment of Mr. Sanders ?
The most likely culprit for the DNC server "hack" is/are the 12 Russian officers so charged.

Exactly what "wilder speculation" are you referencing to; Mueller report contains evidence obtained from witnesses not speculation?
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Twitter will allow important sources like politicians to break its rules, but their tweets will be censored, in attempt to balance free expression and accountability.
Twitter said the new rules would apply to politicians and government officials with more than 100,000 followers.

“We’ll now clearly label any tweets which violate our terms of service but decide to keep up due to public interest,” Twitter chief executive officer Jack Dorsey said.

We’ll also take steps to make sure the Tweet is not algorithmically elevated on our service, to strike the right balance between enabling free expression, fostering accountability, and reducing the potential harm caused by these Tweets.
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Step in the right direction but tweets which violate terms of service should simply be deleted.
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US President Donald Trump said that US companies can again sell products to Chinese technology giant Huawei after an effective ban in May.

Trump clarified his comments earlier in the press conference, saying after his meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping he would allow Huawei to once again buy US products.
Another major climb down by Trump
He also dropped/delayed his threat to impose tariffs on all Chinese imports!

So far no mention of any matching concessions by the Chinese
Maybe Putin gave them some useful information on Trump
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Mr. Muller will soon be given the opportunity to substantiate some of the wilder speculation....
'wilder speculation' = "no I didn't read it but I have an opinion on it anyway"

and yes I have read it, it's a dry, dull* recitation of facts 'wild speculation' is about as far from accurate as it is possible to be.

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President Trump will meet briefly with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un Sunday at the Demilitarized Zone on the Korean peninsula.
The meeting will likely be a quick handshake and greeting, Trump said.
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Weird idea! The N. Koreans will see it as a huge "loss of face" for Trump travelling half way around the world and begging Kim for a meeting!
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Not only did Trump step over into North Korea, he walked all the way to the stairs before turning for the photo op. The propaganda machine in NK has to be squealing with glee.
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The leadership carousel at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) took another spin this week as the agency underwent fresh changes among officials tasked with enforcing immigration law.

Roughly 10 weeks after a purge of DHS leaders that included former Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, the acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) abruptly resigned and the agency announced a new head of Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

Current DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan is "acting" not permanent.
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If elected, Trump boasted, he would surround himself “only with the best and most serious people… We want top-of-the line professionals.”

But what are Trump's own words about his appointees?
  • Attorney General Jeff Sessions; “very weak,” “scared stiff,” “missing in action,” “Mr. Magoo.”
  • Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross; “past his prime.”
  • Secretary of State Rex Tillerson; “didn’t have the mental capacity needed. He was dumb as a rock ......
  • Secretary of Defense James Mattis “What has he done for me? How has he done in Afghanistan?”
  • Jerome Powell Chairman of the Fed; he is “not even a little bit happy” with his selection.
  • White House lawyer Don McGahn: He claimed he was “never a big fan” and he accused him of lying in testimony to Robert Mueller.
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Not only did Trump step over into North Korea, he walked all the way to the stairs before turning for the photo op. The propaganda machine in NK has to be squealing with glee.
How about ALL Koreans are squealing with glee. If Obama did this he would have a second peace prize. What do you TDS sufferers have against peace and diplomacy anyways? Do you really want yet another war? With NK? Iran? Russia? As someone who lived in Seoul for a year I can tell you this tickles every Korean pink. They are still waiting to be reunited with lost (seperated) family members. This was a HUUUUUGE step, the biggest step they have ever seen in their lives, you couldnt make a bigger step than that......okay, okay.
I for one applaud Trump for making those steps towards peace and reunification and for him not buying that B.S false flag tanker attack to send us into yet another war. I am actually starting to like him. But I also like Peace. It was a wonderful thing we had waaay, way back when.
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How about ALL Koreans are squealing with glee. If Obama did this he would have a second peace prize. What do you TDS sufferers have against peace and diplomacy anyways? Do you really want yet another war? With NK? Iran? Russia? As someone who lived in Seoul for a year I can tell you this tickles every Korean pink. They are still waiting to be reunited with lost (seperated) family members. This was a HUUUUUGE step, the biggest step they have ever seen in their lives, you couldnt make a bigger step than that......okay, okay.
I for one applaud Trump for making those steps towards peace and reunification and for him not buying that B.S false flag tanker attack to send us into yet another war. I am actually starting to like him. But I also like Peace. It was a wonderful thing we had waaay, way back when.
What steps? Nothing was agreed or has changed.

The US has been talking to N. Korea since 1985 with no current agreement on denuclearisation.

Ex-President Carter visited N. Korea in 1994 and met the President which resulted in the Agreed Framework, in which North Korea commited to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program and halting construction on nuclear reactors. That agreement eventually collapsed.

In 2005 there was a joint declaration in which North Korea committed to abandon its pursuit of nuclear weapons but that was broken within a year.

More agreements in 2006 and 2007 about denuclearisation.

Another agreement in 2012 which soon collapsed.

Trump does not even have a draft of an agreement, meanwhile N. Korea is happily in production of nuclear weapons.

President Kim Jong Un's 2018 New Year Address "Our country's nuclear forces are capable of thwarting and countering any nuclear threats from the United States, and they constitute a powerful deterrent that prevents it from starting an adventurous war.

The whole of its mainland is within the range of our nuclear strike and the nuclear button is on my office desk all the time"
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How about ALL Koreans are squealing with glee. If Obama did this he would have a second peace prize. What do you TDS sufferers have against peace and diplomacy anyways? Do you really want yet another war? With NK? Iran? Russia? As someone who lived in Seoul for a year I can tell you this tickles every Korean pink. They are still waiting to be reunited with lost (seperated) family members. This was a HUUUUUGE step, the biggest step they have ever seen in their lives, you couldnt make a bigger step than that......okay, okay.
I for one applaud Trump for making those steps towards peace and reunification and for him not buying that B.S false flag tanker attack to send us into yet another war. I am actually starting to like him. But I also like Peace. It was a wonderful thing we had waaay, way back when.
I don't groan posts often, but starting name-calling and jumping straight to TDS? How do you even know I disagree with you on this issue? What I pointed out was simply a fact. Trump didn't only step over the line, he walked well into NK. The propaganda machines in NK will have a field day. Our strong leader Kim got Trump to come to his side - a win for NK (from their point of view).

This is one of the huge problems we face today, where any opinion that doesn't confirm our own must clearly be delusional. That's a dangerous slope to be on. I didn't insert any emotions, I didn't say it was wrong of him to negotiate, and I sure as hell didn't say anything about wanting another war. You're totally off the plot with this one.

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I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I think it's food for the NK propaganda machine and basically rewards a dictator who has no problem killing his own people and his own relatives. That's not great.

Then again, the U.S. has cozied up to dictators throughout history whenever it suited its purpose. It has a different feel this time because instead of the various secretaries and back departments doing the cozying, it's the president himself, in front of global media.

Previous diplomatic efforts have not worked, and Trump is unconventional and unpredictable. Kim likes him. If they can come to some agreement that brings long-lasting peace and stability, I'm all for it.

But I remain skeptical. I don't see Kim giving up his position as supreme leader to reunite the peninsula as a democratic country. I don't see him giving up nuclear ambitions, because he feels he needs the nukes as a bargaining chip against larger powers.

Kim's not stupid - he can see that agreements the U.S. makes under one president can be undone under the next. Obama made a deal with Iran. Trump withdrew and put on further sanctions. Who is to say if a democrat took the White House in 2020 that they wouldn't roll back whatever Trump does? I'm sure Kim thinks of that too.
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What steps? Nothing was agreed or has changed.

The US has been talking to N. Korea since 1985 with no current agreement on denuclearisation.

Ex-President Carter visited N. Korea in 1994 and met the President which resulted in the Agreed Framework, in which North Korea commited to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program and halting construction on nuclear reactors. That agreement eventually collapsed.

In 2005 there was a joint declaration in which North Korea committed to abandon its pursuit of nuclear weapons but that was broken within a year.

More agreements in 2006 and 2007 about denuclearisation.

Another agreement in 2012 which soon collapsed.

Trump does not even have a draft of an agreement, meanwhile N. Korea is happily in production of nuclear weapons.

President Kim Jong Un's 2018 New Year Address "Our country's nuclear forces are capable of thwarting and countering any nuclear threats from the United States, and they constitute a powerful deterrent that prevents it from starting an adventurous war.

The whole of its mainland is within the range of our nuclear strike and the nuclear button is on my office desk all the time"


You forgot Dennis Rodman.
You don’t understand Korean culture very much. All of those agreements are pretty much worthless. Having a current U.S president show up and shake hands on NK soil is more progress than all of those agreements combined. Sure nothing was signed, yet. But in the eyes of Koreans this was more progress than any piece of paper. You must first build a foundation of respect and Trump visiting NK is the most respectful thing that has happened in my life time. This is how the Koreans would see this event. He showed up and showed respect. First step towards real peace accomplished.
NK doesn’t need a nuke to destroy SK. When I was there in the 90’s we were told that NK has enough artillery and range to turn SK into an ashtray. Estimated time for total destruction: 12 minutes. TWELVE MINUTES! Estimated time before allied reinforcements show up, 30-45 minutes. Current U.S and ROK soldiers are nothing but a speed bump. And lets not forget that NK special ops have units already in Seoul and various parts of SK. Lets also not forget that NK special op soldiers are considered the most deadly soldiers in the world. They’ve been hand picked and trained since the age of five. They strike fear in even the most gung-ho, trigger happy U.S soldiers. The only reason they want nukes is for self preservation, aka bargaining chip. But still, if it was Obama that did this the press would be all over this historic event. But, but, but Trump bad man.
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I don't groan posts often, but starting name-calling and jumping straight to TDS? How do you even know I disagree with you on this issue? What I pointed out was simply a fact. Trump didn't only step over the line, he walked well into NK. The propaganda machines in NK will have a field day. Our strong leader Kim got Trump to come to his side - a win for NK (from their point of view).

This is one of the huge problems we face today, where any opinion that doesn't confirm our own must clearly be delusional. That's a dangerous slope to be on. I didn't insert any emotions, I didn't say it was wrong of him to negotiate, and I sure as hell didn't say anything about wanting another war. You're totally off the plot with this one.

What I think:
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I think it's food for the NK propaganda machine and basically rewards a dictator who has no problem killing his own people and his own relatives. That's not great.

Then again, the U.S. has cozied up to dictators throughout history whenever it suited its purpose. It has a different feel this time because instead of the various secretaries and back departments doing the cozying, it's the president himself, in front of global media.

Previous diplomatic efforts have not worked, and Trump is unconventional and unpredictable. Kim likes him. If they can come to some agreement that brings long-lasting peace and stability, I'm all for it.

But I remain skeptical. I don't see Kim giving up his position as supreme leader to reunite the peninsula as a democratic country. I don't see him giving up nuclear ambitions, because he feels he needs the nukes as a bargaining chip against larger powers.

Kim's not stupid - he can see that agreements the U.S. makes under one president can be undone under the next. Obama made a deal with Iran. Trump withdrew and put on further sanctions. Who is to say if a democrat took the White House in 2020 that they wouldn't roll back whatever Trump does? I'm sure Kim thinks of that too.

I didnt mean it as a personal attack or insult. More as an observation of this thread as a whole. No offence.
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I am actually starting to like him.
Don't get ahead of yourself now...hahahaha. You do not have to like him to actually see sense in some of the moves he makes! I cannot say I like him nor do I buy into the whole idea of politicians having to be likeable. He needs to rub his opponents the wrong way..it is working out quite a bit, anyways.
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Don't get ahead of yourself now...hahahaha. You do not have to like him to actually see sense in some of the moves he makes! I cannot say I like him nor do I buy into the whole idea of politicians having to be likeable. He needs to rub his opponents the wrong way..it is working out quite a bit, anyways.
Your right. I dont like HIM as a person but I do like some of his actions and policies. He says stupid things on twatter but then turns around and sometimes makes sensible policies, sometimes. Do you judge a man by his rhetoric or his actions? Actions speak louder than words IMO. And after watching some of the democratic debate I would have to say the biggest winner was actually Trump. The only person who has a real chance against Trump is Andrew Yang but the DNC would rather play the race card mixed with identity politics which will not win. So it looks like four more years of Trump before Dan Crenshaw takes over in 2024.
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..... But, but, but Trump bad man.
Is it your position he isn't? that the sexual abuse, lack of condemnation for Nazis, being ok with state sanctioned murder and dismemberment, oh and the non-stop lying. That all these things are made up?

This is real, these are the positions this man takes, he long ago passed a point where his character can be excused because of any perceived successes. If you are going to like him just consider that you have to be OK with the above. If you really think he's worthy of your support then go to it and good luck, just do it consciously with the understanding of the baggage it carries.
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Seems you have fallen for the N. Korea propaganda about how great their military is.

About "He showed up and showed respect. First step towards real peace accomplished." Ex-President Carter showed up in 1994 and that was not a "First step towards real peace accomplished"??

I hope you are right about the progress but I fear you continue dreaming....
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Your right. I dont like HIM as a person but I do like some of his actions and policies. He says stupid things on twatter but then turns around and sometimes makes sensible policies, sometimes. Do you judge a man by his rhetoric or his actions?
I judge a person by his values. His actions may not reflect his values entirely, given a myriad of other factors. E.g.: HIS values include derision for Latinamerican inmigrants; to prevent inmigrants from illegally flocking into the country, he wants to build a wall. He had 3 years to work on it, yet he hasn't achieved much. What matters in this tiny example is not what he did (or didn't) do, but what he cares about.

Based on what I've read in mainstream media (and the speeches I've seen/heard), Trump is an inmature bigot, racist, mysoginistic bully, which all in all makes him an absolutely horrible person. I'm ashamed to belong to the same (human) race as an individual as him.
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Based on what I've read in mainstream media (and the speeches I've seen/heard), Trump is an inmature bigot, racist, mysoginistic bully, which all in all makes him an absolutely horrible person. I'm ashamed to belong to the same (human) race as an individual as him.
In Trump's case, you don't even have to worry that the media is biased one way or another because the utter bilge comes straight from his Twitter-account and out of his gob. He's doing media bias all by himself.
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Your right. I dont like HIM as a person but I do like some of his actions and policies. He says stupid things on twatter but then turns around and sometimes makes sensible policies, sometimes. Do you judge a man by his rhetoric or his actions? Actions speak louder than words IMO. And after watching some of the democratic debate I would have to say the biggest winner was actually Trump. The only person who has a real chance against Trump is Andrew Yang but the DNC would rather play the race card mixed with identity politics which will not win.
Let them get on with it. It really needs to happen. For the biggots no matter where they stand on the political spectrum. I feel bad that a bunch of decent Dems will get flushed down with the baby bath water, though. Learning curve.
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Your right. I dont like HIM as a person but I do like some of his actions and policies. He says stupid things on twatter but then turns around and sometimes makes sensible policies, sometimes.
He deliberately causes outrage and it works. He stays in the focus of those who say that he isn't worth their focus. He makes damn sure that while he is busy with actions, his opponents are busy hating him, keeping him as their priority and grandstanding about him not being worth their focus. It is not stupid. It is strategic.

What doesn't always work is that he expects that people will judge him by actions. They do not seem to have actions as a priority, though. They are busy illustrating the difference between them and him. They are not busy focusing on an alternative program and course of actions (which most people would prefer, me included!).
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