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Old 18.07.2019, 11:04
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That’s hilarious. If you ask an outrageous question don’t be surprised if it gets answered.

Fox News planting the seed now millions of Trump supporters wondering if Omar married her brother.
If only there was a good word to describe this behaviour...hmm..deplorable?
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If only there was a good word to describe this behaviour...hmm..deplorable?
Abhorrent, reprehensible... take your pick. To see a president so clearly lacking in any moral compass and speaking against the theoretical principles and ideals of a nation should be grounds to immediately begin the process of removal from office.

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Abhorrent, reprehensible... take your pick. To see a president so clearly lacking in any moral compass and speaking against the theoretical principles and ideals of a nation should be ground to immediately begin the process removal from office.
Listening to his crowd chant "Send her back" at his latest rally has to be the nadir so far. Doesn't America have incitement-to-violence laws?
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Listening to his crowd chant "Send her back" at his latest rally has to be the nadir so far. Doesn't America have incitement-to-violence laws?
Is that the B-side to "Lock her up"?
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Old 18.07.2019, 12:01
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Is that the B-side to "Lock her up"?
Indeed...seems his crowd struggles with anything longer than a three word refrain.
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Old 18.07.2019, 12:22
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apropos of nothing...


i don't dig marianne williamson but i enjoyed her just dunking on Dave Rubin.
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Trump's dangerous game.
His racism appeals to his base but evermore immigrant children are reaching voting age and evermore Dems are leaving high tax cities and moving to trafitional GOP areas....
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Listening to his crowd chant "Send her back" at his latest rally has to be the nadir so far. Doesn't America have incitement-to-violence laws?
Why? is there a negative connotation to 'send her back' that I wasn't aware of?
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Fox News planting the seed now millions of Trump supporters wondering if Omar married her brother.
Yeah but its not exactly a high bar to get his supporters to believe crap, now is it?
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Trump's dangerous game.
His racism appeals to his base but evermore immigrant children are reaching voting age and evermore Dems are leaving high tax cities and moving to trafitional GOP areas....
1. The type of demographic changes you’re talking about take place over years. Trump doesn’t care about what happens beyond election time next year as it won’t affect him.
2. According to this poll, a majority of Hispanics support him over his tweets about the “squad”

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1. The type of demographic changes you’re talking about take place over years. Trump doesn’t care about what happens beyond election time next year as it won’t affect him.
2. According to this poll, a majority of Hispanics support him over his tweets about the “squad”

How did you read it as saying that? are you claiming 'OK' as being in support? why? 'OK' is read there as 'neither bad nor good' literally it is betweeen the options 'bad' and 'good'. You can't count it as a thumbs up or down. The correct reading is
The tweets were rated Bad or Terrible by 49% of Hispanics and Good or Great by 26%
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How did you read it as saying that? are you claiming 'OK' as being in support? why? 'OK' is read there as 'neither bad nor good' literally it is betweeen the options 'bad' and 'good'. You can't count it as a thumbs up or down. The correct reading is
The tweets were rated Bad or Terrible by 49% of Hispanics and Good or Great by 26%
From the Oxford English Dictionary:

OK - Used to express agreement or acceptance.
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1. The type of demographic changes you’re talking about take place over years. Trump doesn’t care about what happens beyond election time next year as it won’t affect him.
2. According to this poll, a majority of Hispanics support him over his tweets about the “squad”



The combination of "terrible" and "bad" is far higher by a country mile than the "great" and "good" combination. How are you interpreting "OK"?

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OK - Used to express agreement or acceptance.
On the incremental scale here, though, the sentiment seems to be more "no feeling one way or the other"

It's pretty desperate justification of it, though. Seriously, the over-riding results are that more people think it's bad or terrible than great or good. PLUS, it was only 1000 people in the poll.
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Old 18.07.2019, 14:16
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Trump's dangerous game.
His racism appeals to his base but evermore immigrant children are reaching voting age and evermore Dems are leaving high tax cities and moving to trafitional GOP areas....
and children of dem voting immigrants sometimes switch sides and vote GOP. Sometimes it simply has to do with social mobility and moving into the middle class income bracket where you may have different attitudes to taxation. Sometimes people switch just because they have a different political outlook to their parents. Happens all the time. I've met plenty of staunch republicans in places like Texas whose parents or grandparents were immigrants.

It wasn't very long ago that the entire South was deeply Democrat. Times change.

Or are you implying that one's political affiliation is somehow immutably defined by your DNA?
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and children of dem voting immigrants sometimes switch sides and vote GOP. Sometimes it simply has to do with social mobility and moving into the middle class income bracket where you may have different attitudes to taxation. Sometimes people switch just because they have a different political outlook to their parents. Happens all the time. I've met plenty of staunch republicans in places like Texas whose parents or grandparents were immigrants.

It wasn't very long ago that the entire South was deeply Democrat. Times change.

Or are you implying that one's political affiliation is somehow immutably defined by your DNA?
No, I am claiming you are less likely to vote for a racist who tells you to go back where you came from.
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Old 18.07.2019, 14:26
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1. The type of demographic changes you’re talking about take place over years. Trump doesn’t care about what happens beyond election time next year as it won’t affect him.
2. According to this poll, a majority of Hispanics support him over his tweets about the “squad”

But it is years since the last election?

Probably they did not sample enough Latinos to be statistically significant
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From the Oxford English Dictionary:

OK - Used to express agreement or acceptance.
We're not talking the dictionary, we're talking the poll you posted, I put 'neither good not bad' specifically to avoid these sort of games. We can agree it's a bad poll, but even skewing it as you want to, there is a margin of error no? which would be several percent, but lets be generous and say it's 1%, your argument still falls flat.
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We're not talking the dictionary, we're talking the poll you posted, I put 'neither good not bad' specifically to avoid these sort of games. We can agree it's a bad poll, but even skewing it as you want to, there is a margin of error no? which would be several percent, but lets be generous and say it's 1%, your argument still falls flat.
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No, I am claiming you are less likely to vote for a racist who tells you to go back where you came from.
That's what the pundits think, but multiple times the BBC has interviewed minority voters who support Trump. On a personal note, I have many Hispanic friends that are Trump supporters. In one show I watched, and in discussions with friends, the voters say he's just spouting nonsense to rile people up. That goes for his racist, homophobic, sexist comments alike. They don't believe he actually means it, or if he does it's just words anyway.

These people voted for him once and they'll vote for him again because they support his economic plans more than some words said to wind people up. They fear the Democrats will bring Socialism. Socialism is a very scary word for Americans it seems, and a lot of folks apparently equate it to Communism.

Side note - Polls continually show that voters dislike negative advertising about opponents and would prefer to see positive ads from candidates highlighting why they're the best candidate for the job.

Polls also show that overwhelmingly, negative advertising works. Trump has the negative advertising schtick down and now that he's president he has an even bigger platform from which to throw his negative ads.
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Interesting. MAGA being read as negative. So, the word Great must be somehow negative. Or Make ( ie can-do). Or Great Again, negative? Those are all positive gestures and people seem to be hungry for those.

These conflicts he causes over progressives overreacting to his random tweets - yeah, that gets ignored by those who buy into can-do. He is totally pushing his opponents into reactive, reflex and negative mode. He got that down.

People do not associate can-do with negativity.

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