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Old 24.08.2019, 01:06
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Dow dropped over 600 points again today; under 26,000 again
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Old 24.08.2019, 22:02
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Trump evolving from threats to bribery!
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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

“Face It, You Probably Got A Tax Cut!” This was a New York Times headline, and it is very true.
If Republicans take back the House, and keep the Senate and Presidency, one of our first acts will be to approve a major middle income Tax Cut!
Democrats only want to raise your taxes!
5:15 PM · Aug 24, 2019
I suppose we can put this proposal in a box with other Trump Campaign promises like;
  • Rebuild US infrastructure
  • Bring back the coal business
  • Pay off national debt
  • US GDP over 4%
  • Bring back Mid West auto manufacturing
  • Negotiate new trade deals
  • Build a wall and have Mexico pay for it
  • Cancel all funding of sanctuary cities
  • Renegotiate the Iran deal
  • Repeal Obamacare
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Old 26.08.2019, 10:50
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.
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President Trump has suggested multiple times to senior Homeland Security and national security officials that they explore using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from hitting the United States, according to sources who have heard the president's private remarks and been briefed on a National Security Council memorandum that recorded those comments.

Behind the scenes: During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.
  • Asked how the briefer reacted, the source recalled he said something to the effect of, "Sir, we'll look into that."
  • Trump replied by asking incredulously how many hurricanes the U.S. could handle and reiterating his suggestion that the government intervene before they make landfall.
  • The briefer "was knocked back on his heels," the source in the room added. "You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"
From a European perspective, is this the most American idea ever? The bravado, the stupidity, and the disregard for calamitous fallout that might be experienced by others... What an embarrassing time to be from the United States.
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From a European perspective, is this the most American idea ever?
Maybe, but it's hardly a new idea, having originally been proposed back in the '50s.

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Old 26.08.2019, 11:21
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Maybe, but it's hardly a new idea, having originally been proposed back in the '50s.

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Yeah but back then they didn't really understand the radioactive implications. Can't use that excuse now.
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Old 26.08.2019, 11:37
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Maybe, but it's hardly a new idea, having originally been proposed back in the '50s.

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Yeah, not a completely new idea. But it's always been a stupid one. The National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration responds to it here:

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During each hurricane season, there always appear suggestions that one should simply use nuclear weapons to try and destroy the storms. Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems. Needless to say, this is not a good idea.

Now for a more rigorous scientific explanation of why this would not be an effective hurricane modification technique. The main difficulty with using explosives to modify hurricanes is the amount of energy required. A fully developed hurricane can release heat energy at a rate of 5 to 20x1013 watts and converts less than 10% of the heat into the mechanical energy of the wind. The heat release is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes. According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate of 1013 watts in 1990, a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane.

If we think about mechanical energy, the energy at humanity's disposal is closer to the storm's, but the task of focusing even half of the energy on a spot in the middle of a remote ocean would still be formidable. Brute force interference with hurricanes doesn't seem promising.

In addition, an explosive, even a nuclear explosive, produces a shock wave, or pulse of high pressure, that propagates away from the site of the explosion somewhat faster than the speed of sound. Such an event doesn't raise the barometric pressure after the shock has passed because barometric pressure in the atmosphere reflects the weight of the air above the ground. For normal atmospheric pressure, there are about ten metric tons (1000 kilograms per ton) of air bearing down on each square meter of surface. In the strongest hurricanes there are nine. To change a Category 5 hurricane into a Category 2 hurricane you would have to add about a half ton of air for each square meter inside the eye, or a total of a bit more than half a billion (500,000,000) tons for a 20 km radius eye. It's difficult to envision a practical way of moving that much air around.

Attacking weak tropical waves or depressions before they have a chance to grow into hurricanes isn't promising either. About 80 of these disturbances form every year in the Atlantic basin, but only about 5 become hurricanes in a typical year. There is no way to tell in advance which ones will develop. If the energy released in a tropical disturbance were only 10% of that released in a hurricane, it's still a lot of power, so that the hurricane police would need to dim the whole world's lights many times a year.

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Old 26.08.2019, 12:44
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China called, last night, our top trade people, and said, 'Let's get back to the table,’” Trump told reporters during a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi on the sidelines of the Group of 7 (G-7) summit in Biarritz, France.

Trump said his administration received two calls from Chinese officials

Meanwhile, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said he did not know of any phone calls between the two countries, Reuters reported.
What a clown is Trump
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Yeah, not a completely new idea. But it's been always a stupid one. The National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration responds to it here:
Nor is getting rid of warts by throwing a dead cat in a river a new idea, maybe we should excuse any madness he comes up with if its not a new idea.

It's not the most stupid thing he's said on the environment, I doubt it's even the most stupid thing he *will* say on the environment.

Against my better instincts, I'm starting to feel sorry for the clown, he's so obviously out of his depth.
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It's not the most stupid thing he's said on the environment, I doubt it's even the most stupid thing he *will* say on the environment.
I was going to say that it probably *will* be the stupidest thing that he says, but then I thought of the fires in Amazonia. You could just blow them out, like a candle flame, pouf. Problem solved!
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I was going to say that it probably *will* be the stupidest thing that he says, but then I thought of the fires in Amazonia. You could just blow them out, like a candle flame, pouf. Problem solved!
Trump is pretty much obsessed with Amazon. He was probably happy when he heard that is was burning.


Until he found out that it was the forest...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Well Trump will certainly go down in history as one of the "significant"mental aberrations of the American collective psyche
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I was going to say that it probably *will* be the stupidest thing that he says, but then I thought of the fires in Amazonia. You could just blow them out, like a candle flame, pouf. Problem solved!
Well he missed the opportunity to say something even more stupid this time as the US was the only country not to be represented at the climate change meeting. An empty chair for an empty suit.
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Trump in full sales mode!
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At the Group of Seven (G-7) summit’s conclusion on Monday in Biarritz, France, Trump spoke optimistically about the prospect of a deal to end the trade war with China, while championing a separate tentative trade agreement with Japan.

Trump promised a robust free-trade agreement with a post-Brexit United Kingdom, and spoke confidently about future nuclear agreements with North Korea and Iran.
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People who believed Mexico would pay Trump to build a wall will likely fall for these fairy tales too
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Old 27.08.2019, 22:39
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Incredible how much Trump has changed world perceptions!

At the G7 meeting he said China had phoned several times to request restarting trade negotiations.
China denied that.

It used to be most people would believe the US versus China.

Now most people believe China
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https://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_a...trump-s-tweets
US artist Diana Weymar wanted to find a way of relating to the current political atmosphere. So she began to stitch President Donald Trump’s tweets, into clothes, cushions and more. And she invited others to do the same.

The resulting collection is on display in a New York City gallery.
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Incredible how much Trump has changed world perceptions!

At the G7 meeting he said China had phoned several times to request restarting trade negotiations.
China denied that.

It used to be most people would believe the US versus China.

Now most people believe China
funny how constantly lying can impact your credibility...
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Would love to believe China (and I am not a Trump fan at all) but sorry after living in Asia for 10 years, who would EVER believe China?
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Would love to believe China (and I am not a Trump fan at all) but sorry after living in Asia for 10 years, who would EVER believe China?
Anyone who wasn't a Trumpite sheeple.

Nice way to diss 20% of the world's population, by the way. Oh, and how much time have you spent in China?
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Anyone who wasn't a Trumpite sheeple.

Nice way to diss 20% of the world's population, by the way. Oh, and how much time have you spent in China?
Your comment re: Trumpite Sheepie??

How much time have you spent in China? Or in Asia for that matter? Have you ever visited China? Or spent any time in Asia?
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Your comment re: Trumpite Sheepie??
Sheeple, actually. Yes? What about my comment?

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How much time have you spent in China? Or in Asia for that matter? Have you ever visited China? Or spent any time in Asia?
I think I asked you, didn't I? Anyway... I lived and worked in Beijing and Shanghai. OK by you?
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