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It's not a risk to terrorism but I can only assume that driving in Damascus is slightly different than merging onto the Autobahn. Sure, they'll be trained etc. but regardless, why not train somebody in something they're already good at? A number of people coming over have agricultural backgrounds, why not employ them in that sector instead?
As someone who knows a good few farmers in Germany I doubt too many fake refugees are interested in outcompeting the Poles for those kind of arduous jobs. In fact quite a few of Eastern European farm labourers are super pissed off that they work so hard while others get more for doing nothing....

no they're too busy fighting and drinking on the taxpayer dime ... just from today's news : http://www.schwaebische.de/region_ar..._toid,623.html
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right, because other media outlets are soooo much better, right?
Hell yeah!
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Old 30.12.2016, 10:47
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When Fox News becomes a credible news source, I'll grow a dick and balls.
I assume that you are a woman? It's kind of funny, because the liberal media outlets (that I assume you trust as "credible"?) have been heavily pushing the transgender agenda, which defines gender as "whatever you identify with". It would be the conservative news outlets (like Foxnews) that would side with you and define gender based on physical attributes and not on "feelings".

Coincidentally (?) all the major liberal media outlets ran a big headline story yesterday about a 8 year old girl in New Jersey, who identifies as a boy, that was kicked out of the Boy Scouts because she has female genitalia. If you know of a magic way to "grow dick and balls"; please share this info ASAP with the transgender community, as it will solve alot of problems (including mine because I'm tired of this topic constantly popping up in my news feed)


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From the Fox link...
We are migrants. We paid a charge to convert our driving licences to Swiss ones. It's all in the misuse of terminology spinning a collection of details into a propoganda 'news story', and I use that term in the loosest possible sense.
Did you miss the DW link that talked about the German government funded program to train refugee truck drivers? Or did you willfully ignore it just to focus on bashing Foxnews instead?

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fake refugees
Yeah, yeah, they are all fake... you sound like a broken record.

Here is the story of one of those "fake" refugees... yes, he is not from Aleppo and no, Pakistan is not "officially" in a civil war. He still fears for his and his families lives and has some concrete reasons to do so. Especially after he was arrested and then dragged through the mud as a suspect...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-for-his-life
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you know the 'fake' refugees wouldn't have ID's and drivers licenses to trade in.

Fox news is a joke, but only marginally worse then the BBC now, at least with fox you know they are talking bollocks, the bbc is talking bollocks but with a thin veneer of (old) credibility.
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you know the 'fake' refugees wouldn't have ID's and drivers licenses to trade in.

Fox news is a joke, but only marginally worse then the BBC now, at least with fox you know they are talking bollocks, the bbc is talking bollocks but with a thin veneer of (old) credibility.
So what credible news outlet do you propose we should consult?
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I assume that you are a woman? It's kind of funny, because the liberal media outlets (that I assume you trust as "credible"?) ...

...Or did you willfully ignore it just to focus on bashing Foxnews instead?
100% heterosexual woman just as my mum made me! But I was car mechanic daddy's shooting, fishing, headstrong girl. He taught me to smell bull poop at 100 paces and call it out.

If you take every recognised news source (i.e. that is their main purpose) available to us, I put Fox News firmly at the bottom of the credibility list. My bottom three are...

The Sun
Daily Mail
Fox News

...and way, way down in the bowels of hell lives a wizened creature named Rush Limbaugh.

When you can quote from any other news source than those, you might gain some credibility.
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So what credible news outlet do you propose we should consult?

consult whoever you like, just accept they all have there own agenda. You could always go and find out the truth for yourself if its really that big an issue for you.

just as an example (as I come from kent) the reporting about calais, the jungle, the disruption of the ferries and channel tunnel etc caused by the immigrants (as reported by the BBC) in the summer was total BS. the disruption was caused by FRENCH sailors taking over a ferry that had been sold (errrmm isn't that piracy??) trashing it (errmm criminal damage) stealing everything, then having jollies in the life boats round the calais harbour for weeks, so the other ferries couldn't dock. Yes the refugees then took advantage of the huge traffic jams, but at the time most (all??) of the news outlets conveniently neglected to mention that, operation stack was all blamed on the refugees at the jungle. Funny how everything got back to normal the second a deal was made with the sailors and they ended there blockade.
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Old 30.12.2016, 12:09
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Yeah, yeah, they are all fake... you sound like a broken record.
And I wrote this where pray tell ???

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Yeah, yeah, they are all fake... you sound like a broken record.

Here is the story of one of those "fake" refugees... yes, he is not from Aleppo and no, Pakistan is not "officially" in a civil war. He still fears for his and his families lives and has some concrete reasons to do so. Especially after he was arrested and then dragged through the mud as a suspect...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-for-his-life
And yet he still has managed to make it across about a dozen borders to get to Germany. Why? Because free everything.

He was safe long before he arrived on Germany's doorstep. Area's of Pakistan are pretty grim, but I he solution isn't to invite the world to Germany.

P.s. Based on current estimations there are over half a million migrants without valid asylum applications that require deportation. There are still about half a million more applications to process.
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consult whoever you like, just accept they all have there own agenda. You could always go and find out the truth for yourself if its really that big an issue for you.

just as an example (as I come from kent) the reporting about calais, the jungle, the disruption of the ferries and channel tunnel etc caused by the immigrants (as reported by the BBC) in the summer was total BS. the disruption was caused by FRENCH sailors taking over a ferry that had been sold (errrmm isn't that piracy??) trashing it (errmm criminal damage) stealing everything, then having jollies in the life boats round the calais harbour for weeks, so the other ferries couldn't dock. Yes the refugees then took advantage of the huge traffic jams, but at the time most (all??) of the news outlets conveniently neglected to mention that, operation stack was all blamed on the refugees at the jungle. Funny how everything got back to normal the second a deal was made with the sailors and they ended there blockade.
Thus, the videos of refugees throwing rocks and other randomly assorted goodies was all staged. Pheww, I am relieved now, it was the sailors.
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And yet he still has managed to make it across about a dozen borders to get to Germany. Why? Because free everything.

He was safe long before he arrived on Germany's doorstep.
He was a psychopath. He's dead. Get over it or retreat to your bunker.

The most important questions now, and for the appropriate intelligence bodies, are did he have a support structure and who were they?
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He was a psychopath. He's dead. Get over it or retreat to your bunker.

The most important questions now, and for the appropriate intelligence bodies, are did he have a support structure and who were they?
Yes, he's dead...but what about the next one? And when will Germany step up to the plate and stop pretending there isn't an administrative issue?
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Yes, he's dead...but what about the next one? And when will Germany step up to the plate and stop pretending there isn't an administrative issue?
The next one will come, as they always do. Now is the time for intelligence gathering and cross referencing, not for administration.
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The next one will come, as they always do. Now is the time for intelligence gathering and cross referencing, not for administration.
You mean like in the Berlin case, that his file was analyzed 6 times within 2016 and deemed him not a threat..despite him spending 4 years in jail in Italy for setting fire to a school and being aware of his affiliation to a terrorist group? You mean that type of intelligence?
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Thus, the videos of refugees throwing rocks and other randomly assorted goodies was all staged. Pheww, I am relieved now, it was the sailors.

have you ever driven into calais? We have, many many times going to / from the uk, I'm not saying it never happens, but we have NEVER seen any trouble on the motorways to the ports regardless of the time of day or night.

is some of it staged? who knows, I can only speak from experience, we have never had an issue, no one who's driven out to us has ever had an issue, no one we know has ever had an issue, true they are not driving lorries and don't have a film crew in the back of there cars.

The fact (which you chose to gloss over) is the trouble over the summer had nothing to do with refuges (fake or otherwise) it had to do with an industrial dispute over the sale of a ferry (that would be moved to a new route) and job losses. When you have 10 mile queues of lorries parked up because they can't access the port then what do expect the refugees to do? it was a golden opportunity. But news outlets (who did know the truth) chose to report BS instead.

Now if 1st world countries, where the information is easily accessible, report this kind of BS what does that mean for the rest of the world? This happened on our doorstep, yet the vast majority of people blindly accepted that a few people trying to board lorries could bring the busiest port in the world to its knees for weeks.
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He was a psychopath. He's dead. Get over it or retreat to your bunker.

The most important questions now, and for the appropriate intelligence bodies, are did he have a support structure and who were they?
Eh? I was on about the guy from Pakistan who was wrongly arrested. Regardless of how he was treated by police, he still made a hell of a trip to get to Germany for free stuff.
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You mean like in the Berlin case, that his file was analyzed 6 times within 2016 and deemed him not a threat..despite him spending 4 years in jail in Italy for setting fire to a school and being aware of his affiliation to a terrorist group? You mean that type of intelligence?
Hindsight is 20/20 and you learn from your mistakes. Those lessons will need to be learned now...and again...and again...as this sorry mess evolves. Putting an entire continent into lockdown has never been, and never will be the solution. It didn't stop the IRA, Bader Meinhof, Red Brigade, ETA, Grey Wolves, etc...and it won't stop Daesh.
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have you ever driven into calais? We have, many many times going to / from the uk, I'm not saying it never happens, but we have NEVER seen any trouble on the motorways to the ports regardless of the time of day or night.

is some of it staged? who knows, I can only speak from experience, we have never had an issue, no one who's driven out to us has ever had an issue, no one we know has ever had an issue, true they are not driving lorries and don't have a film crew in the back of there cars.

The fact (which you chose to gloss over) is the trouble over the summer had nothing to do with refuges (fake or otherwise) it had to do with an industrial dispute over the sale of a ferry (that would be moved to a new route) and job losses. When you have 10 mile queues of lorries parked up because they can't access the port then what do expect the refugees to do? it was a golden opportunity. But news outlets (who did know the truth) chose to report BS instead.

Now if 1st world countries, where the information is easily accessible, report this kind of BS what does that mean for the rest of the world? This happened on our doorstep, yet the vast majority of people blindly accepted that a few people trying to board lorries could bring the busiest port in the world to its knees for weeks.
It doesn't matter whether I've driven through Calais or not. If I were a refugee stuck somewhere and I see a queue of trucks 10 miles long, I'd try to earn some money by cleaning windshields or selling beverages and fruit...but that's just me. I guess it all boils down to character. Furthermore, you can't deny the plethora of reports and videos made from Calais where refugees are wrecking havoc...

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As someone who knows a good few farmers in Germany I doubt too many fake refugees are interested in outcompeting the Poles for those kind of arduous jobs. In fact quite a few of Eastern European farm labourers are super pissed off that they work so hard while others get more for doing nothing....

no they're too busy fighting and drinking on the taxpayer dime ... just from today's news : http://www.schwaebische.de/region_ar..._toid,623.html
Not too many refugees are interested in drinking alcohol; it is against their religion
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