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Old 04.04.2017, 10:26
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I wonder how many of those charged and wanted for in connection with the attack actually read the Mail or Express
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Old 04.04.2017, 10:46
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I wonder how many of those charged and wanted for in connection with the attack actually read the Mail or Express
Not that it's relevant, or anything , but you can't deny the drip-drip of thinly veiled hate plastered all over these tabloids with startling regularity. For one thing it boosts sales but at the expense of normalising casual disdain for immigrants.

There are always going to be thugs spoiling for a fight needing very little excuse or reason (labelling them with anything other than "bored dickhead" is likely too much of a compliment) and I'm sure they don't even bother reading detail or fact-checking when there is a nice big juicy headline on every news stand with the next "shocking" revelation about how a migrant near you is taking your NHS bed or marrying/converting your daughter or claiming 10s of 1000s in benefits.

Of course it could just be a small minority of thugs but that's all it takes to beat up a 17 year old or wreck a mosque or burn down an asylum centre, isn't it?

If nothing else, it is normalising and reinforcing the "us vs them" attitudes, not to mention contributing nicely to the Daily Mail's 2 billion in profits.
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Old 04.04.2017, 12:06
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I wonder how many of those charged and wanted for in connection with the attack actually read the Mail or Express
I saw a DM article/video doing the rounds on social media at the weekend but hosted by Britain First. It was posted by a relative in Greece and had been sent to her by her relative in France.

Anyway, this attack is nothing to do with the alt-right. It's common or garden gang mentality picking on the weakest.
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Old 10.04.2017, 22:30
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As a Midlander, I've been quite enjoying this picture which has been doing the rounds over the last couple of days:



Now, being a cynical bastard, I held back from posting it anywhere until I knew a bit more about the background to it. That involved visiting the English Defence League's twitter and facebook pages, and wading through an awful lot of shit to see what their point of view was, but I did it and I got what I wanted.

Ms Khan is, quite simply, awesome. Sure, she's a shit stirrer - but she was in her own home town, giving shit to unwanted visitors. I wish I'd been there!

Now, while we're on the subject, I've been watching footage of EDL marchers kicking people and running away, reading EDL jokes about paedophilia and extremely nasty comments about women, and looking at their horribly defaced St George's Cross flags. How on earth do these people get away with describing themselves as "patriots"? They're no such thing. I was quite willing to give them a fair hearing, but they just seem to condemn themselves with every tweet they make and every march they go on.

I never thought I'd side with the Antifa crowd, but on this particular matter I think they're right on the money. These monkeys deserve a good thrashing, preferably with a pick handle.
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Old 11.04.2017, 10:35
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I don't see this picture as anything particularly special. It's hardly Tank Man. It's just two people who hate each other being separated by a copper.

The EDL are nothing - there was hardly anyone at this protest. I'm surprised you were willing to give them a fair hearing, look at the state of him.
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Old 11.04.2017, 11:00
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I don't see this picture as anything particularly special. It's hardly Tank Man. It's just two people who hate each other being separated by a copper.

The EDL are nothing - there was hardly anyone at this protest. I'm surprised you were willing to give them a fair hearing, look at the state of him.
Yeah, I've seen that picture on facebook quite a bit. Mostly as clickbait. The location and back story seem to vary a bit too. I guess that's how the whole social media thing works.

At the end of the day its just two people getting angry at one another, and lots of people who weren't actually there jumping on the bandwaggon and putting words into the mouths of people they don't know.

And then they act surprised when fake news turns out to be such a big thing.
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Re: All about the alt-right (in the wake of anti-Muslim shooting)

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Saw her interviewed yesterday and I don't now about her being a shit stirrer. What I saw was a very confident, together young woman with a cheeky sense of humour.

The office I worked at in Manchester was in the same building as the Passport Office. In the period between 2011-2013, we had a few police warnings about EDL activity concentrated on the building, and security was tightened significantly as a result.
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Old 11.04.2017, 12:14
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Re: All about the alt-right (in the wake of anti-Muslim shooting)

For anyone who thinks this story is 'fake news' or 'clickbait', here's what the BBC reported.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-39555303
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What I saw was a very confident, together young woman with a cheeky sense of humour.
Her being not really white and of course female, perhaps non-christian (I'm guessing), this may exactly be the issue
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Saw her interviewed yesterday and I don't now about her being a shit stirrer.
She was definitely a shit stirrer - she deliberately went to Centenary Square because she knew it was going to kick off with the EDL, same as the woman with the hijab who was the catalyst for all of this.


But the fact remains that both Ms Khan and the woman with the hijab were Brummies in their own city, whereas the uncouth flag-defacers were unwelcome visitors.


And the picture is brilliant, clickbait or not. I'm more Yam Yam than Brummie, but it's nice to see the 021s getting a bit of positive coverage.
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Re: All about the alt-right (in the wake of anti-Muslim shooting)

I find it noteworthy that this kind of shit isn't even remarked upon. From this article on the same event, video seconds 15-17.

Understandable EDL are called racists.

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I find it noteworthy that this kind of shit isn't even remarked upon. From this article on the same event, video seconds 15-17.

Understandable EDL are called racists.

Looks like the sun was in his eyes.
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Old 11.04.2017, 18:40
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Re: All about the alt-right (in the wake of anti-Muslim shooting)

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"Look at me, look! I'm a cr... I'm a cr... I'm... Look! I'm a..."
"Move along please sir"
"But look I'm a croco..."
"Stand back, please"
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I find it noteworthy that this kind of shit isn't even remarked upon. From this article on the same event, video seconds 15-17.

Understandable EDL are called racists.
Sorry. I don't understand your point. Isn't even remarked upon by whom?
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Re: All about the alt-right (in the wake of anti-Muslim shooting)

*cough*

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39636104
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*crickets*
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*tumbleweed*
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*cough* *cough*

http://www.newsweek.com/james-hodgki...shooter-625667
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Re: All about the alt-right (in the wake of anti-Muslim shooting)

Another one? The Portland stabber was a Bernie fanboy too!
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Re: All about the alt-right (in the wake of anti-Muslim shooting)

Peaceful Islam critic Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, possibly better known as Tommy Robinson, has a civilized discussion at Ascot last week.



Robinson has a 3 month suspended sentence hanging over him from last month (due to his antics at Canterbury Crown Court) so if he gets done for this he's almost certainly going away for another holiday.
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