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NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

Hospitals across England have been hit by a huge cyber attack, plunging the NHS into chaos.

IT systems appear to have broken and emergency patients are having to be diverted to other areas, according to doctors.

The hack appears to be an example of ransomware malicious hackers breaking into computers and only allowing their owners back in when they pay enough money.

Source: Independent
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

21 hospitals across UK under attack. Doctor's/GP surgeries, Pharmacies and Universities are also affected.

This a Europe wide spread cyber attack, apparently.
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Nightmare. I bet my NHS it bod friend is glad he's on paternity leave this week!
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Old 12.05.2017, 20:25
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Nightmare. I bet my NHS it bod friend is glad he's on paternity leave this week!
I'm glad my elderly parents had a doctor's appointment yesterday, and not today, and that I left the NHS in 2007.

Scary though.
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Patch has been available since March
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Old 12.05.2017, 21:30
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

It's not just the NHS. It's a global outbreak at the moment.
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21 hospitals across UK under attack. Doctor's/GP surgeries, Pharmacies and Universities are also affected.

This a Europe wide spread cyber attack, apparently.
Worldwide.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39901382
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

Mrs May says there are organisations affected in about 70 countries.

The strange, and dangerously worrying, thing is how do the criminals expect the NHS to pay the ransom? Everyone one knows they have no cash!
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

It's worldwide and it's not a hack. It is malware (virus/worm/trojan). The computers get infected by downloading an attachment from an email and opening it, or by clicking on a popup, or downloading software from a website (like they tell you - you must download this viewer to see the pretty ladies. Or you believe an advert that tells you your computer is infected and only their software (just a click away) can save you).

The malware then triggers, and starts encrypting your files. After a while it pops-up the demand for money.

What's particularly problematic with the current one is that once on a computer in a network, it can spread to other computers on the same network.

The NHS hasn't been targeted or hacked - just they haven't the latest patches, and/or staff aren't following good hygienic computer practices, probably due to lack of training and poorly set up systems.
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Old 13.05.2017, 12:15
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The NHS hasn't been targeted or hacked - just they haven't the latest patches, and/or staff aren't following good hygienic computer practices, probably due to lack of training and poorly set up systems.
Apparently they still have a ton of XP PCs for which support was stopped ages ago and there isn't even a patch.
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The NHS hasn't been targeted or hacked - just they haven't the latest patches, and/or staff aren't following good hygienic computer practices, probably due to lack of training and poorly set up systems.
Having worked in IT, and a while in medical IT, I suspect that the problem is more that they're trying to run a "mission critical system" on a shoestring, and that beancounters and administrators have at various stages fired or ignored any IT guy (such as myself) who has said "These are going to be end of life in 2 years, we need budget to replace it, and to plan, test, and do the upgrade".

If there was a problem within the IT department then there may have been some genius repeating "never touch a running system" whenever anyone mentioned software updates.

Add a bunch of consultants and you've a recipe for disaster.

"10'000 Pounds??? There isn't that much."
"What would it cost to go without email, scheduling systems, or data for a day?"
"We were fine last year, besides, we're already spending too much money on IT!"
"Right, give me your office, cell, and home phone numbers - when the shit hits the fan I'll just autoforward all the calls to you, asshole."
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Old 13.05.2017, 13:10
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

according to a friend in the know a lot of the NHS are still running Windows XP because they don't have the funds to upgrade. The more astute parts of the NHS have disconnected their XP computers from the network as Microsoft no longer supports XP.
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Old 13.05.2017, 14:07
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according to a friend in the know a lot of the NHS are still running Windows XP because they don't have the funds to upgrade. The more astute parts of the NHS have disconnected their XP computers from the network as Microsoft no longer supports XP.
Yes up to 90% apparently: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/1..._xp_nhs_still/
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Old 13.05.2017, 14:28
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?


NHS is governmental, no?
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

I just flew into Dusseldorf airport and at the train station all the timetable monitors have been affected like this (screen shot from the BBC news article).
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

Apparently we have to thank the NSA for this global cyber attack.
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

What would I not do if I got my hands on one of these bastwards.
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What would I not do if I got my hands on one of these bastwards.
Which bastward in particular,

The one(s) who developed the exploit?
The one(s) who deployed the trojan?
The one(s) who kept running XP?
The one(s) who didn't install the patches in March on the non XP systems?
The one(s) who clicked on an attachment in an email without thinking?

The problem with bastwards is there are so damned many of them.
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Re: NHS under a nationwide cyber attack?

The last three were only necessary because of the first two. The crime victims are not to blame - only foolish for not taking precautions in the face of the risks.

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Which bastward in particular,

The one(s) who developed the exploit?
The one(s) who deployed the trojan?
The one(s) who kept running XP?
The one(s) who didn't install the patches in March on the non XP systems?
The one(s) who clicked on an attachment in an email without thinking?

The problem with bastwards is there are so damned many of them.
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The last three were only necessary because of the first two. The crime victims are not to blame - only foolish for not taking precautions in the face of the risks.
In my opinion the bastward who thinks that holding people for ransom to get money is the one who needs to be crucified. In short the one who pressed "Enter"
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