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Old 29.06.2017, 22:01
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

And then you get scumbags like this one.

"A man has been arrested on suspicion of lying that his wife and son had died in the Grenfell Tower fire.

The 52-year-old, who is alleged to have tried to gain money and housing in the aftermath of the west London blaze, is being held on suspicion of fraud."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40449956
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And then you get scumbags like this one.

"A man has been arrested on suspicion of lying that his wife and son had died in the Grenfell Tower fire.

The 52-year-old, who is alleged to have tried to gain money and housing in the aftermath of the west London blaze, is being held on suspicion of fraud."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40449956


Would have been surprised if that hadn't happened, TBH.

I was kind-of waiting for it.

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Old 29.06.2017, 22:27
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Would have been surprised if that hadn't happened, TBH.

I was kind-of waiting for it.

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I wonder how many people called into work the next day claiming they had to help/look for their aunt, nephew, parent who lived in the building...
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And then you get scumbags like this one.

"A man has been arrested on suspicion of lying that his wife and son had died in the Grenfell Tower fire.

The 52-year-old, who is alleged to have tried to gain money and housing in the aftermath of the west London blaze, is being held on suspicion of fraud."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40449956
There were 'victims of the fire' begging on the streets of London two days after.
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Old 30.06.2017, 00:12
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That's actually a positive development.
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They respectfully waited a day.
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http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartandhp

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Re: London Tower Block Fire

What about for every other tower block up and down the country...
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Now lets roll out all interviews stating how such an accident could never happen in the UK.

Germany bus crash: 18 feared dead and 30 injured
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

Have I missed something. Whilst it's great that the cladding is being tested everywhere, and horrific that so many are failing, what is happening about the insulation, I though that the insulation between the cladding and building was also 'minimally flammable' rather than non-flammable. Are tower blocks up and down the country having this tested too?
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Old 03.07.2017, 13:48
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Have I missed something. Whilst it's great that the cladding is being tested everywhere, and horrific that so many are failing, what is happening about the insulation, I though that the insulation between the cladding and building was also 'minimally flammable' rather than non-flammable. Are tower blocks up and down the country having this tested too?
Yes, you've missed something. The most important thing is to find the single bad guy, that way you can ignore if it's a systemic problem.

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What about for every other tower block up and down the country...
I wasn't aware of any others which had incinerated its residents?
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Old 03.07.2017, 18:24
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

Luckily doesn't seem to have been anyone in this one yet.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...-roof-10724431

Solar panels may be to blame so we'll have to remove all of them next.
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Luckily doesn't seem to have been anyone in this one yet.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...-roof-10724431

Solar panels may be to blame so we'll have to remove all of them next.
Firefighters usually don't touch a burning building which has Solar panels.

The panels often work until they're completely burned-up and can possibly shock those who try to put out the fire.
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Luckily doesn't seem to have been anyone in this one yet.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...-roof-10724431

Solar panels may be to blame so we'll have to remove all of them next.
Our solar panels are in the field next to us - pheew. They take care of all our hot water, and up to 6 guests- so wouldn't be without them.
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Firefighters usually don't touch a burning building which has Solar panels.

The panels often work until they're completely burned-up and can possibly shock those who try to put out the fire.
Well, that'll cheer everyone up who've put solar panels on the roofs of their houses. Wonder if that was in the promotional blurb - "If your solar panels catch fire the firemen will stand around waiting until the panels burn themselves out before trying to save what remains of your home". But hey, you're helping to save the planet by using renewable energy.
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

On breakfast TV an expert fire engineer gave his opinion that the metal tiles, cladding the buildings up and down the country, have all failed the fire tests recently, because they have been tested using the wrong method !

I can understand his claim: he says samples of the metal tiles have been ground to dust, mixed with oxygen and pressurised at 2 ATUs, and then ignited.

Almost anything will burn in those circumstances!
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Well, that'll cheer everyone up who've put solar panels on the roofs of their houses. Wonder if that was in the promotional blurb - "If your solar panels catch fire the firemen will stand around waiting until the panels burn themselves out before trying to save what remains of your home". But hey, you're helping to save the planet by using renewable energy.
"Just make sure your house doesn't catch fire."

It's probably a good idea to make sure the insurance-payout pays for a new house ;-)
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On breakfast TV an expert fire engineer gave his opinion that the metal tiles, cladding the buildings up and down the country, have all failed the fire tests recently, because they have been tested using the wrong method !

I can understand his claim: he says samples of the metal tiles have been ground to dust, mixed with oxygen and pressurised at 2 ATUs, and then ignited.

Almost anything will burn in those circumstances!
Hubby's been saying the same thing. They should be testing the whole system - walls, cladding in place, support framework, etc, not just the cladding panels on their own. And who's doing the testing? Shouldn't it be done at Warrington or the other place down in the south of the country?

https://www.warringtoncertification.com/

They've been doing the certifcation for decades.
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Hubby's been saying the same thing. They should be testing the whole system - walls, cladding in place, support framework, etc, not just the cladding panels on their own. And who's doing the testing? Shouldn't it be done at Warrington or the other place down in the south of the country?

https://www.warringtoncertification.com/

They've been doing the certification for decades.
Forgive me for being cynical. The press and the Govt. have already determined who the bad guy is. One is enough. The thing that's most important now is to be seen to be doing something about it to give the viewers/voters the impression that something is being done.

Besides... certification labs are about quality assurance. Have you looked at the warrington homepage? What a bunch of marketing blabla!

"By combining cutting-edge science and technology, intelligent thinking and experience, we work in partnership with you to identify opportunities and find solutions to make you more competitive."

Not just thinking... intelligent thinking.

Not even a hint of "We help you be sure that your products won't kill people."
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Just been watching a video about New Orleans- and how the 'poor' who lost their homes were sent to cheaper areas further away- and how it was a fabulous opportunity to gentrify the area and make megga bucks on property...
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