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London Tower Block Fire

Horrific looking fire in a tower block in London. The whole thing is ablaze. It's shocking that a concrete block could burn like that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

Horrible! How can that happen?
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Horrific.

I have trouble imagining the fire getting that out of control without being either deliberately set, or some design flaw or modification which compromised the isolation of the individual cells within the block. Presumably the firefighters arrived reasonably quickly.
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Horrific.

I have trouble imagining the fire getting that out of control without being either deliberately set, or some design flaw or modification which compromised the isolation of the individual cells within the block. Presumably the firefighters arrived reasonably quickly.
The whole building was renovated fairly recently and the insulation on the outside of the building renewed.
It started in the early hours of the morning but it is still hard to imagine how it managed to get so big so quickly.

It's horrendous.
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

Unconfirmed comment that a refridgerator exploded in one of the flats. Which is itself worrying.

Unforutnately building buildings taller than fire appliances can reach brings risk. They can only get ladders up to about the 7th or 8th floors, water not much higher. Can't do anything else but watch if the fire goes higher than that. Only thing I can think of which might work would be one of the water scoops they use for dumping water on forest fires. Dump some big loads of water from above.
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Not sure if this is part of it, but a woman was interviewed who is some sort of council member (i am not sure).

She talked about the renovation and said that there were also concerns about the gas in the building. Of course, there is nothing but speculation, although several witnesses report hearing sounds like explosions. Nothing official.

Only 30 people taken to hospital.
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

Unconfirmed reports that no fire alarms were heard . Estimates of up to 500 people live in that building and considering it was in the middle of the night, I can imagine it was near to full occupancy. It's just horrific....
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There is talk that the dry riser wasn't operable.

Reports of a number of fatalities.

Terrible.
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Re: London Tower Block Fire



This is even more horrific after reading that article!
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Unconfirmed reports that no fire alarms were heard . Estimates of up to 500 people live in that building and considering it was in the middle of the night, I can imagine it was near to full occupancy. It's just horrific....
Has anyone seen a fire alarm in Swiss apartment buildings? Do they exist?
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Has anyone seen a fire alarm in Swiss apartment buildings? Do they exist?
Yes, and fire extinguishers on every floor in our last appartment.
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None in ours, or smoke alarms.
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Re: London Tower Block Fire

There should be fire alarms and extinguishers available on every floor. If not, contact your landlord. Now would be a good time to do it.
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Ours neither, I'm amazed there isn't a fire alarm. There's an extinguisher on every floor though.
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Horrific looking fire in a tower block in London. The whole thing is ablaze. It's shocking that a concrete block could burn like that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625
I was also shocked to see that as well. Normally a fire in a concrete tower block would be more or less confined to the flat or floor where the fire broke out.

I've seen reports that state that the time from the fire starting to the time that the building was effectively engulfed was around 15 mins. Fingers are being pointed at the new outside cladding that was recently installed - something I'm inclined to agree with as pictures and films clearly show the outside of the building burning, and not just flames emerging from windows as would be typical for a fire in a concrete building.

If that really is the reason why the fire spread so quickly, then one has to ask how many other highrise blocks have the same issue.
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I was also shocked to see that as well. Normally a fire in a concrete tower block would be more or less confined to the flat or floor where the fire broke out.

I've seen reports that state that the time from the fire starting to the time that the building was effectively engulfed was around 15 mins. Fingers are being pointed at the new outside cladding that was recently installed - something I'm inclined to agree with as pictures and films clearly show the outside of the building burning, and not just flames emerging from windows as would be typical for a fire in a concrete building.

If that really is the reason why the fire spread so quickly, then one has to ask how many other highrise blocks have the same issue.
having dealt with council building regs and planning depts in the uk I just can't understand how they would allow flammable cladding to be put up on a high rise? supported by wood batons according to reports, the hoops we had to jump through renovating our garage in the uk (as it was less then 1 meter from the boundary) were ridiculous, fire proof everything, seems one rule for the little people and another for councils.

And seriously, high rise tower blocks don't have to have sprinkler systems?????
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If that really is the reason why the fire spread so quickly, then one has to ask how many other highrise blocks have the same issue.
It has already implicated according to LBC in other fires in France, IIRC

The action group also states lots of other concerns about electrical safety, no safety lights, sealed off exits, parking where emergency services should access etc

I see some prosecutions over this
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Clearly the advice has to change now

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Unconfirmed comment that a refridgerator exploded in one of the flats. Which is itself worrying.
like for pkb's washing machine...delivered and installed by MediaMarkt??
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