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yes that must sound very familiar to your brothers who fight for white supremacy and christian domination.
If you can't handle the facts or face the issues that's fine but there is no need for childish outbursts.
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Old 24.08.2017, 22:29
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Failure to work harder than the native? I must laugh here. I think you don't know enough about North African immigration history in France. In the 60's-80's, France's infrastructure was built by those "lazy" North Africans. They contributed also with their lives in liberating France from Germans during WWII while most french people were collaborating with Nazis under Vichy government.
Yup that's why when I walk down La Defense in Paris or I see the burning cars in the banlieu or talk to my friends in Marseilles they're so happy to have the hard working North Africans amongst them.

As a side note if the people you claim to teach are so well educated why didnt they come to Europe via the blue card program ??
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If you can't handle the facts or face the issues that's fine but there is no need for childish outbursts.

'My brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice'

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seriously. I went through all your posts in this thread and I did not find a single articulated thought with constructed argumentation. Your capacity seems to be restricted to just provocative one-liners bashing muslims. Keep on little kriss kross.
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Should we expect from all those who disagree with us, to sign up to our program of carefully constructed arguments and justification of all their differing ideas?

Isn't it a bit clinical?

And, a definition of entitlement.

People should be entitled to be treated civilly. But that's about it. Everything else needs to be worked for. A job, an interesting debate, a place to sleep.

To treat the massive avalanche clinically and with a method of a small sample has proven inefficient, both from the human aspect to practicalities.
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seriously. I went through all your posts in this thread and I did not find a single articulated thought with constructed argumentation. Your capacity seems to be restricted to just provocative one-liners bashing muslims. Keep on little kriss kross.
I admit I've gotten lazy in my rebuttals; I blame it on the ridiculousness of the argument though.

I honestly can't believe some people still tip-toe around the problem that is Islam and it's role in terrorism. It's become such a joke that I treat it as such.
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Yup that's why when I walk down La Defense in Paris or I see the burning cars in the banlieu or talk to my friends in Marseilles they're so happy to have the hard working North Africans amongst them.

As a side note if the people you claim to teach are so well educated why didnt they come to Europe via the blue card program ??
Well if your friends think like you then it's very likely that they don't appreciate the presence of "north Africans" in their districts. Marseille has a complex background of population. A lot of "pieds noirs" who were "rejected" from North Africa during decolonization war. So it's "understandable" that they don't like the presence of north africans.

Blue Card is a EU program and Switzerland is not part of it. I don't know if you are aware of the situation in Syria but cities like Aleppo, Homs are just a pile of ruins without any working administration or Internet. Try to figure out how to apply online there. I heard it's more African countries that are benefiting from this program.
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It's curious that there are so many free integration/language/job training/ job coaching opportunities available for refugees and asylum seekers, and none or near none for legal immigrants or Swiss citizens. And despite all that, it doesn't seem to be much help:
Because the government and local government provide that. You just missed an event in Zurich yesterday...

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/en/...oerderung.html

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Information event for newcomers on the following subjects:
  • Zurich – who lives here, who are the «Zurichers»?
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  • Living in Zurich, useful things to know for your daily life (taxes, social security, health, public transport, waste disposal etc.)
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The majority of European jihadists were born here, and if we're talking first generation North Africans they were anything but workshy
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Majority of middle eastern jihadists where born in the middle east. Do you think that there may be something there that links the two?
I reckon they were all Muslims and waged their jihad in the name of Islam
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Are these cops or are they volunteer translators. I can't see that well.

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You use "immigrants" and "asylum seeker" indifferently showing that you put all those "brownies" in the same box that needs to be discarded by any means.
If you read again what I wrote, you'll understand that I was speaking about Asylum Seeker and not "legal immigrants".
I fear that angst, anger you have towards those "brownies" kind of distorts your judgement. Just take a minute and think about a 30years old afghan refugee who has only seen imported war & violence during his life (first the russians and then the americans).
1) Why are you putting words in other people mouths? I don't think anyone in this thread has used the words "brownies" except you.

2) If USSR and US never went into Afghanistan, everything would have been just fine there? No tribal wars? No drug trade? No backwards society?

3) Why should Swiss taxpayers now have to foot the bill for all the people living in problematic parts of the world?
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Old 24.08.2017, 23:15
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1) Why are you putting words in other people mouths? I don't think anyone in this thread has used the words "brownies" except you.
It's still my freedom and right to use the words I want to use. I never wrote that someone else used this word. Are you a kind of thought-police here? Concentrate on YOUR writings and let others write what they want.

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2) If USSR and US never went into Afghanistan, everything would have been just fine there? No tribal wars? No drug trade? No backwards society?
I'm not expert in geopolitical fiction.

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3) Why should Swiss taxpayers now have to foot the bill for all the people living in problematic parts of the world?
Please send a letter to the Swiss federal government with your question.
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Because the government and local government provide that. You just missed an event in Zurich yesterday...

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/en/...oerderung.html


https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/de/...nd_events.html
No free language courses or job training there...just info events on where to find a paid course and where to look for a job.

My point is that these opportunities don't exist for legal immigrants because they are largely seen as unnecessary - the legal immigrants aren't really given any handouts, and yet they end up getting jobs and integrating much better than asylum seekers/refugees.

I know a guy with CH citizenship, grew up in the UK since being a toddler, and who didn't speak a word of German when he moved here (without a chunk of change in his pocket - he was moving from a developing country). A blue collar guy, trained and experienced, but with no CH Ausbildung. There were no free language classes for him, no free job training, even though he's a CH citizen. No free housing, no free med care, no free cash. Nor should there be, IMO.

I guess the logic is that legal immigrants don't need the help - they'll get by on their own. After all, they are not 'poor savages who are unable to take care of themselves.' (The pseudo-liberal, condescendingly racist excuse of why refugees and asylum seekers should get handouts....which inevitably ends up being the foundation of the welfare state.)

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Blue Card is a EU program and Switzerland is not part of it. I don't know if you are aware of the situation in Syria but cities like Aleppo, Homs are just a pile of ruins without any working administration or Internet. Try to figure out how to apply online there. I heard it's more African countries that are benefiting from this program.
I thought you said you were only helping illegals ?? Are none of them from Africa ?? Again if they are so educated why not enter legally via the blue card program.

By the way 200 of those well educated wanting to work lads you bang on about tore the poop out of each other on Tuesday night in Calais... I suppose they were all so desperate to get to work on time in the UK right ??



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More than 20 migrants have been injured during mass brawls that broke out between Afghans and Africans near the French port of Calais, local officials said.

The fighting involving up to 200 people began overnight on Monday-Tuesday and continued on Tuesday afternoon, with some of the migrants armed with metal bars and sticks.

The local government in Calais said in a statement that 20 people had been injured in total, most of them overnight, while the local prosecutor's office said five people had been arrested.

The fighting began overnight after a row caused by a drunk migrant during the distribution of free food by local charity, the Auberge des Migrants.
Of course if what you said would even be true to the tiniest extent then North Africa and North Africans would be a shining example to the world of how African society can be successful law abiding and not crime-ridden. Doesn't seem to be the case does it??
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I thought you said you were only helping illegals ?? Are none of them from Africa ?? Again if they are so educated why not enter legally via the blue card program.
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I don't speak any of the subsaharian languages that's why I can't help with translation and teaching for subsaharian asylum seekers.
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Of course if what you said would even be true to the tiniest extent then North Africa and North Africans would be a shining example to the world of how African society can be successful law abiding and not crime-ridden. Doesn't seem to be the case does it??
To be fair, there are many parts of Muslim Africa with little to no crime. If you steal, they may cut off your hand...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1428159.stm
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Contrary to all "expectations", there are quite a few refugees who want to learn the language and take advantage of the integration programmes that are offered back home. There aren't that many refugees to begin with, but apparently not all of them are heading to Germany and Sweden. For the time being. We might not be that backward after all. (guess it will become some sort of democracy and tolerance barometer, isn't it...)
- How many refugees did you take?
- Not too many.
- You racists!


Edit. Just forgot to add that, in parallel, among other things, our kind government is cutting off the incentives that were offered to small companies which hire persons with disabilities (people with a handicap).....and thus, all those people who could actually work till now, most probably will have to stay at home from now on. They protested in the square like everybody else, but who will listen to them.

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It's still my freedom and right to use the words I want to use. I never wrote that someone else used this word. Are you a kind of thought-police here? Concentrate on YOUR writings and let others write what they want.
Of course you are free to use the words you choose, however, it reflects poorly on you when you choose racist and derogatory words, and feeds the circle of hatred.

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I'm not expert in geopolitical fiction.
I am saying Afghanistan is a messed up place. It was before USSR and USA went in, and it will continue to be after they are gone. They aren't victims of geopolitics, it's exactly the opposite, they are a hub for terrorism and drug trade which are causing geoplolitical problems. If you haven't noticed, there are no resources or anything else that another country would want to invade it for. It's a crap hole that's causing nothing but problems in the world. Anything else is geopolitical fiction.

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Please send a letter to the Swiss federal government with your question.
I do exactly that 4x per year when I vote
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what is exactly salafism?
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I am saying Afghanistan is a messed up place. It was before USSR and USA went in, and it will continue to be after they are gone. They aren't victims of geopolitics, it's exactly the opposite, they are a hub for terrorism and drug trade which are causing geoplolitical problems. If you haven't noticed, there are no resources or anything else that another country would want to invade it for. It's a crap hole that's causing nothing but problems in the world. Anything else is geopolitical fiction.
Isn't it ironic? Afghanis will appreciate.
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isn't it ironic? Afghanis will appreciate.
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