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Re: Barcelona: Van rams into crowd

Great idea!

lets see how many tabloids one can fit onto EF.
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Re: Barcelona: Van rams into crowd

So what do the leaders of the major Islamic countries say? Do they ever ever condemn such attacks and say it does not belong to Islam? Do they ever give their condolences?
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Old 19.08.2017, 13:18
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Re: Barcelona: Van rams into crowd

It's a horrible ending of the summer season.

Another nasty incident reported here:

Finland killings: Stabbings in Turku a 'terror attack'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40985528

Be alert in big cities and places with mass concentration.
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So what do the leaders of the major Islamic countries say? Do they ever ever condemn such attacks and say it does not belong to Islam? Do they ever give their condolences?
Who cares? It's all just words, isn't it?

Lots and lots of words.
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" be alert in big cities ". Whats thats supposed to mean?
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It's a horrible ending of the summer season.

Another nasty incident reported here:

Finland killings: Stabbings in Turku a 'terror attack'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40985528

Be alert in big cities and places with mass concentration.
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Old 19.08.2017, 13:23
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" be alert in big cities ". Whats thats supposed to mean?
You are grownup and clever enough to figure it out.
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Such attacks can happen anytime-alert or not. Live with it and get on with your life.
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I think I stopped reading after this....
You should have kept reading, then you might have noticed that the article was regarding the double standards of the media in responding to terrorist attacks and didn't mentions the West's military's policy as you've implied.

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Rubbish article. You can't blame every single Muslim for the deeds of a few jihadis, but you can blame every single neo-nazi for being such.
Had the article suggested that all Muslims are to blame for the acts of a 'few Jihadis' (who have killed over 450 people in Europe in the last three years) you would've had a great point.
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Barcelona chief rabbi urges Jews to leave Spain: 'This place is lost'

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Commenting on deadly attacks in Catalonia, the chief rabbi of that region in Spain said that his community is doomed, partly because of radical Islam and authorities’ alleged reluctance to confront it.
Rabbi Meir Bar-Hen has been encouraging his congregants to leave Spain, which he called during an interview with JTA a “hub of Islamist terror for all of Europe,” for years before the attacks Thursday and Friday, he said. At least 13 victims and five suspected terrorists were killed in Barcelona and the resort town of Cambrils, 75 miles south of the city
To Bar-Hen, whose community on Friday resumed activities that it had suspended briefly following the Barcelona attack, “Jews are not here permanently,” he said of the city and region. “I tell my congregants: Don’t think we’re here for good. And I encourage them to buy property in Israel. This place is lost. Don’t repeat the mistake of Algerian Jews, of Venezuelan Jews. Better [get out] early than late.
And there you have it - diversity is great and all that except when it's our people who are getting slaughtered...
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'Two years ago on this social network he responded to the question: 'On your first day as absolute king of the world, what would you do?' Oukabir answered:
'Kill the infidels and only leave the Muslims that advance the religion..'
I guess we'll never know what his motivation was to carry out such an atrocity.
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Old 19.08.2017, 18:31
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I guess we'll never know what his motivation was to carry out such an atrocity.
To be fair, the article that i posted (from 20minutos.es) must have been in error - I've since read that these words came from Driss Oukabir's brother Moussa, who was one of the guys killed in a shootout with police IIRC.

Driss Oukabir may well be completely innocent for all we know.
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Re: Barcelona: Van rams into crowd

Barcelona attack: New manhunt for suspected driver
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40982926

I hope they'll catch him soon.
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Re: Barcelona: Van rams into crowd

The last parapgraph is telling:
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Bar-Hen said he may not attend the rally called by Colau Ballano as security officials instructed him to avoid public areas in the coming days because he is recognizably Jewish
And this to everyone here dissecting attackers spirutual life instead of the bigger picture:
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Bar-Hen also charged that authorities and some politicians are reluctant to confront Islamist terrorism. He cited the government’s decision in April to allow Leila Khaled, a Palestinian terrorist who was convicted in a plot to hijacking an airplane in 1969, to enter the country for book festival. This showed authorities “do not understand the nature of terrorism, if they treat it as an action by the disenfranchised,” Bar-Hen said.
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Old 19.08.2017, 23:14
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The West frowns at ISIS, and by frown we mean dropping of 000s of tons of bombs on their bases and hideouts, and reducing vast swathes of Iraq and Syria to rubble.
...but yet where are all the anti-Islamic Extremist protests in the West? Where's all the marches against EU mosques teaching radical Islam?

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...but yet where are all the anti-Islamic Extremist protests in the West? Where's all the marches against EU mosques teaching radical Islam?

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If you feel that strongly, why don't you organise one?
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...but yet where are all the anti-Islamic Extremist protests in the West?
I guess you'd have to have Islamic Extremists marching for there to be a counter 'Anti-Extremist' march e.g. Nazis v ANTIFA/Black Lives Matter etc..
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Islamic Extremists don't march. They drive.
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If you feel that strongly, why don't you organise one?
lol, don't try it in the states, the mob might lynch you:


'Activist Vida James, 34, said of the president’s initial tweet: “Donald Trump spewed hate speech in his campaign, emboldened white supremacists, and here in Boston we have police protecting white supremacists.”'


'Another counter-protester, who gave his name only as Paul, told the Guardian: “Well, he is not wrong. Our generation has been radicalized by police murdering people of color. And cops shut down a massive section of Boston and protected about 25 rightwingers while 45,000 people joined counter-protests.

“I think for a lot of people it’s clear what side the police are on. It wasn’t on the side of the people protesting white nationalists even though Marty Walsh [the mayor of Boston] talked tough earlier in the week.”

Yeah, you morons. Thank goodness we have police to protect law abiding citizens from angry, violent mobs made up of people like yourselves.

He also claimed to have been maced. “I’m fine now. It was during a scrum with a Trump supporter. Someone tried to spray the Trump guy and missed and got me,” he said.'

Aww, poor thing.

'Counter-protester Arielle Gray, 26, who lives in the Boston neighborhood of Mattapan, burned sage and held a sign that read: “Make America Melanated Again.”

Is it just me, or is that even more creepy than it is racist?

She said: “I got here as the police were leading the last of the white supremacists out. I saw two [counter-protesters] arrested.”

She said that although instances of racism were nothing new to people of color, “racists have become bold”.

When asked about violence from both sets of protesters, Gray, who is African American, told the Guardian: “I’m torn on violence. Violence is never truly necessary, but with my people’s history … We’ve had violence enacted against our bodies. There is a point that comes when people are told their voices don’t matter.”

ooh, racist and violent then

Boston Free Speech released a statement to the Guardian saying they would not offer a platform to racism or bigotry. “We denounce the politics of supremacy and violence,” the statement said. “We denounce the actions, activities, and tactics of the so-called Antifa movement. We denounce the normalization of political violence.”'

At least somebody still has their head screwed on straight over there..

'..TV cameras showed a group of boisterous counter-protesters on the Common chasing a man with a Trump campaign banner and cap, shouting and swearing at him. But other counter-protesters intervened and helped the man safely over a fence into the area where the conservative rally was to be staged. Black-clad counter-protesters also grabbed an American flag out of an elderly woman’s hands, and she stumbled and fell to the ground.'

America gone mad (der)..


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-speech-rally
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Re: Barcelona: Van rams into crowd

Wrong thread, I know. Anyways...re. recent incidents in America


Is it possible that, I don't know, had they let the white supremacists march "in peace"*, without organising a counter meeting, everything would have ended as it started....like a ridiculous meeting of a few clowns? Nobody would have died etc.

Giving them so much attention will just make other people who were in a grey area re. race relations to jump the fence to the white extremists?

* they're everything but "in peace" with themselves and with the world, but you got my point I hope - meaning without incidents

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