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Old 20.08.2018, 16:29
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I'm surprised at you for that comment. Giving alcohol to and having sex with a minor is fine if it's a boy (age of consent is 18 there, and I assume 21 for supplying alcohol)? If they really had the mother-son relationship, which both she and he imply, then there's a significant breach of trust and morals there, even ignoring the legal implications.

I won't call her a hypocrite, because that implies she has no right to call out Weinstein. She should answer for her own actions though.
Fair enough and I deserve the groans However reading his description of the trauma and loss of earnings, it sounded more like lawyers fishing for a payday that what actually happened.
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turn that around, much older man and underage teenage girl, still the same?

why do people seem to think its ok one way round but not the other??

of course there is a power imbalance, the boy was, well, just a boy, she was an established 'star' (loose definition as I've never heard of her)
And why is it fine to think that a woman being sexually assaulted maybe did not mind it after all / was dressing up for it / took advantage if it / etc. and the poor boy was just an innocent victim?

By the way, I never wrote (or thought) its ok either way but I agree with Castro, this guy is trying to take advantage of what happened 5 years ago as his career as singer and actor did not evolve as he expected.
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Old 20.08.2018, 16:51
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well from all the 'stars' I've seen moaning about it they all fit that description, career has all but ended, jump on bandwagon.
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And why is it fine to think that a woman being sexually assaulted maybe did not mind it after all / was dressing up for it / took advantage if it / etc. and the poor boy was just an innocent victim?

By the way, I never wrote (or thought) its ok either way but I agree with Castro, this guy is trying to take advantage of what happened 5 years ago as his career as singer and actor did not evolve as he expected.
The boy settled this long ago, did not mention it after that and nowhere it is stated or proven that he is responsible for the leak.
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Unless proven otherwise, the two (J.B and A.A.) were colleagues and none of them was in a more powerful position then the other.
A 37 year old is not in a more powerful position than a 17 year old?

Also, she is also a director and producer, not just an actress.

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Old 20.08.2018, 17:22
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And why is it fine to think that a woman being sexually assaulted maybe did not mind it after all / was dressing up for it / took advantage if it / etc. ...
It isn't not Ok, it just makes little sense.

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... and the poor boy was just an innocent victim?
Perhaps because they've known each other since he was 7?
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Old 20.08.2018, 17:26
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she was an established 'star' (loose definition as I've never heard of her)
She is famous in her native Italy, and her father, Dario Argento, is a famous director and screenwriter: "His most notable work was for Sergio Leone; he and Bernardo Bertolucci collaborated on the story for the spaghetti western Once Upon a Time in the West." (as a director, he's the Italian version of Wes Craven or John Carpenter)

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Old 20.08.2018, 18:22
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Fair enough and I deserve the groans However reading his description of the trauma and loss of earnings, it sounded more like lawyers fishing for a payday that what actually happened.
Thank you for thereby taking this back.
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Being seduced by a beautiful older woman at the age of 17 is so traumatic
I knew two men who, in their late teens, went through something like this. In one case the beautiful adult was a successful lawyer, in the other the beautiful adult a respected sports coach. On perpetrator female, the other male.

Although those men did not know each other, both reported that the seduction and sexual acts, when they happened, surprised and overwhelmed them (even though they had admired and liked the adult concerned) and made them feel confused, part dirty and used, part bold for having been catapulted into adulthood, part afraid for finding themselves in waters too deep for them, and that the incident had led to nightmares and flashbacks, and had negatively influenced every other subsequent relationship of trust, including, but not only, their sexual relationships.

Had they had money for, and access to, appropriate therapy, perhaps they could have been helped.
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She is famous in her native Italy, and her father, Dario Argento, is a famous director and screenwriter: "His most notable work was for Sergio Leone; he and Bernardo Bertolucci collaborated on the story for the spaghetti western Once Upon a Time in the West." (as a director, he's the Italian version of Wes Craven or John Carpenter)

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Apparently her father was famous for Italian Horror films. That said, why on earth would this woman call out ANYONE given her misdeeds? Is she not the same as Weinstein? Using her position and power to seduce and rape those subordinate/inferior to her? What planet does she live on exactly? Her hypocrisy is staggering! Shame on her on all levels...

I cannot stand Weinstein; what a pig! But her actions are reprehensible on all levels...
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Old 21.08.2018, 00:03
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Is she not the same as Weinstein?
No, she's of a better kind. She's a woman.

Only men, e.g. Kevin Spacey, whose "Billionaire Boys Club" opened this weekend and fell thru all floors, are done by this kind of allegation. Louis cK assaulted no one yet he's toast as well.

This isn't justice, it's not even revenge. It's rule of the mob.
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Old 21.08.2018, 00:13
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Re: When You Wish Upon a Weinstein

Sorry... Think Kevin Spacey is a different matter all together. And yes, he is a creep too!

My point was that I cannot and perhaps will never understand why Asia Argento agreed to be interviewed by Ronan Farrow for a land breaking article on Weinstein in Vanity Fair when she was in fact guilty of a similar offense. What was she thinking exactly?? That she was beyond reproach for her actions because she was female?

What an idiot and if anything, this discredits her testimony on Weinstein and Farrow's article as well. Farrow should have done more due diligence... That said, I still think Weinstein is a creep but so is Asia and don't get me started on Spacey...
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Apparently her father was IS famous for Italian Horror films.
FTFY.

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Old 21.08.2018, 15:37
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Re: When You Wish Upon a Weinstein

Meanwhile, they aren't being kind in Italy:

"Jimmy Bennet racconta la sua drammatica notte in balia di Asia Argento"



"Jimmy Bennet recounts his dramatic night at the mercy of Asia Argento:"

"She made me watch all her films, it was horrible!"

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Old 21.08.2018, 22:46
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Meanwhile, daddy is famous for stuff like this (starring Tony Musante, well known on US TV in the '70s):



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bi...rystal_Plumage

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Re: When You Wish Upon a Weinstein

This just in from the BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-45261188

This woman is unreal - pathological I think!
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Old 21.08.2018, 22:55
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This just in from the BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-45261188

This woman is unreal - pathological I think!
She also wrote, directed, and starred in the movie where he played his young son.

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Re: When You Wish Upon a Weinstein

And so, now despite legal evidence, she/Asia denies any wrongdoing and claims it was Anthony's idea to pay the actor off? Oh.. let's not forget that Anthony is dead so he cannot defend himself. How convenient for her to blame him!

Given Bourdain's vehement defense of Argento vs Weinstein in the sordid #Me too affair, perhaps this revelation drove him to despair... Who knows? But one thing is for certain... This woman is a serious nut job! I hope she is prosecuted!
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Aaaaannnnd .... here's the hypocrite showing.

From the BBC article above, McGowan on the allegations against Argento. The Tweet itself seems to have been deleted.

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Aaaaannnnd .... here's the hypocrite showing.

From the BBC article above, McGowan on the allegations against Argento. The Tweet itself seems to have been deleted.

that's a hilarious reaction. if it were a man, she would have been lynched online.
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Just an innocent photo?



http://amp.tmz.com/2018/08/22/asia-a...hoto-sex-texts

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