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What's revolutionary about it: him asking, him doing it in front of them or them agreeing.

Ew.

On the other hand, the fact we get to know about all of this is just a question of easier info circulation, a climate that is focused on this. I do not think that this hadn't existed before Louis got nuts.
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Just to reiterate: Louis CK, who has infested my facebook feed like herpes for the last three years, thought it was ok to ask women to watch him having a wank at work.

He thought it was ok. He asked permission, so it was ok. Having a wank at work was ok.

If that doesn't sum up the "sexual revolution", I don't know what does.
No, that doesn't sum up anything other than the fact he is a complete and utter wanker.

He used his position and power to get away with it, like many have done before him - and before the 60s free-love days.
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Old 11.11.2017, 15:45
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No, that doesn't sum up anything other than the fact he is a complete and utter wanker.
Literally?
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Every which way, plus more besides..
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True, but the "sexual revolution" legitimised it. Look at how the exploitation and objectification of women's bodies exploded in the seventies. Progressive types like Harriet Harman in the UK even supported paedophiles in their quest for recognition and having their "needs" met.

Our entire culture has been in denial for decades, but now that progressive darlings like Louis CK and his chums are being exposed for the filth wizards they always were, maybe there's a chance that we might acknowledge that opening the sluice brings crocodiles along with the fish.
Actually no. I used to study this stuff. Objectification has been going on like, forever. So tired of “conservative” agendas here. Once again, EF just makes me cranky. Later, much.

Once again EF just makes me cranky.
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Old 11.11.2017, 16:12
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Creep. Looks like the revolution happens when sick creeps get in power and start feeling unaccountable.
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Old 11.11.2017, 16:26
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Creep. Looks like the revolution happens when sick creeps get in power and start feeling unaccountable.
Was just thinking about powerful unaccountable movie industry men who abused their power in similar horrific ways in the 30/40/50s and Joseph Kennedy springs to mind.

Nasty piece of work he was.. and look at how his boys grew up to treat women
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Creep. Looks like the revolution happens when sick creeps get in power and start feeling unaccountable.
Creeps like Bill Clinton, you mean?

Or Woody Allen. Or Roman Polanski. Or any of a hundred other proven perverts and predators who still, unaccountably, are welcome in polite society.

But when Mike Pence tells us he'd rather not have an intimate dinner with a woman other than his wife.... ooooOOOOOOOH!

I don't have a dog in the fight of American cultural politics, but I can smell double standards a mile off.

If the fact that Hollywood is a cesspool of exploitation and depravity has been known all along, why do people still buy its products?

We're all complicit in this. All of us. Wringing our hands and shrieking doesn't absolve us of the guilt of allowing these perverts to carry on in plain sight just because they make pretty motion pictures.
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Was just thinking about powerful unaccountable movie industry men who abused their power in similar horrific ways in the 30/40/50s and Joseph Kennedy springs to mind.

Nasty piece of work he was.. and look at how his boys grew up to treat women
No, that's not right. JFK was good looking and charming, so he couldn't possibly be a creep.

Do you really think right-thinking people would have voted a sexual predator into office?
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The disappearance of Louis CK and George Takei from public life would improve my facebook feed immeasurably!
I may have some sympathy over an accusation dating back to 36 years, were he not such a sanctimonious git.

https://twitter.com/georgetakei/stat...74785209638919
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I may have some sympathy over an accusation dating back to 36 years, were he not such a sanctimonious git.

https://twitter.com/georgetakei/stat...74785209638919
Indeed. Here's everybody's favourite facebooker George Takei's response to a question of whether he ever grabbed anyone's genitals without consent:

"Some people are um, um, skittish... or maybe, um, kind of afraid... and you're trying to persuade..."

There's more:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJYb0Yom5UQ

But of course, when you're a star, you can do anything...

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But of course, when you're a star, you can do anything...

Are you quoting Trump again?
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Are you quoting Trump again?
I'm quoting George Takei quoting Trump.

Seems they're cut from the same cloth.

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What's really sickening during that interview - quite apart from the open admission of grabbing - not merely fondling - people's genitals without consent - is the bit where he's blethering on about Mr Weinstein's assaults being about "power", not "sex".

So let's recap, Mr Takei:

The people whose genitals you grabbed without consent were:

1) in your house
2) in the presence of a famous television actor
3) "skittish" (your words)
4) "afraid" (your words)
5) needed "persuasion"

... but, no, this had nothing to do with "power" at all, did it?
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What's really sickening during that interview - quite apart from the open admission of grabbing - not merely fondling - people's genitals without consent - is the bit where he's blethering on about Mr Weinstein's assaults being about "power", not "sex".

So let's recap, Mr Takei:

The people whose genitals you grabbed without consent were:

1) in your house
2) in the presence of a famous television actor
3) "skittish" (your words)
4) "afraid" (your words)
5) needed "persuasion"

... but, no, this had nothing to do with "power" at all, did it?
He thought the other boys were just playing hard to catch.. Why would anyone refuse to have sex with him, no?

Cynical, shameless bastard(s).

Btw, am I the only one who thinks they made that interview too easy for him?
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Re: When You Wish Upon a Weinstein

First those pesky Russians rigged the election for Trump and now they're rigging sexual assault allegations against George Takei!

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John Lasseter, boss of Pixar and director of the first two Toy Story films now having to take a leave of absence for giving out "unwanted hugs". I thought luvvies hugged everyone? Probably more to it.

Oh, and Aled Jones of bland BBC Radio 2 Djaying and Snowman fame is also having a "break".
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I guess that's the crux of it, isn't it? The guy couldn't understand that a schmooz on the red carpet in front of the paps wasn't an invitation for "come to my room and force yourself on me later".

It's like someone assuming they can move into my house after I give them litre of milk.
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I guess that's the crux of it, isn't it? The guy couldn't understand that a schmooz on the red carpet in front of the paps wasn't an invitation for "come to my room and force yourself on me later".

It's like someone assuming they can move into my house after I give them litre of milk.
Yep, and funny how okay it is for the movie men/producers to walk the red carpet and do the professional PR smiles and kisses as part & parcel of their job no matter who they hate.

Actresses, however, are two faced for doing the exact same. Tiresome load of old double standard sh!te.
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