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Yes, and not forgetting Harry himself admitting he needed help - so no stigma would have been attached to her. And had she admitted she could not cope she would have been given help, and she would have received much sympathy.

The only thing she could not cope with was not being the queen bee and having to defer to Kate in the royal pecking order.
until there is a clearer picture of things I don't believe any of it conclusively right now.

They claimed they wanted privacy, but arranged a global media event.
Claimed racial slur's but wont say who.
Claimed suicidal depression but was refused treatment, but won't say who refused.

If they would just answer these questions with some clear answers I would change my opinion completely because if the royal family are a set of racist people who decline suicidal individuals help then they have a lot to answer for, but right now my impression is more of a malicious couple (or perhaps more one of them than the other) who want to inflict misery because they feel they have been slighted.
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The FT is always there to remind us about the important stuff: money I felt intrigued by that comment about living in the 1990s.
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If they would just answer these questions with some clear answers
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

To summarise the whole incident in the words of Stephen Colbert, watch till 5:26. Hilarious, couldn't have been said any better/funnier.

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To summarise the whole incident in the words of Stephen Colbert, watch till 5:26. Hilarious, couldn't have been said any better/funnier.

Maybe I'm not tuned into American humour but I didn't find that very funny
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

William just actually answered questions shouted at him by a reporter, which is unusual. https://twitter.com/re_dailymail/sta...464566272?s=21

Heís not spoken to Harry & the Royal Family is not at all racist.
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William just actually answered questions shouted at him by a reporter, which is unusual. https://twitter.com/re_dailymail/sta...464566272?s=21

Heís not spoken to Harry & the Royal Family is not at all racist.
Well that's that then, straight from the horses mouth.
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Well that's that then, straight from the horses mouth.
Just reporting what was said by William, not saying if it is true or not.
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Just reporting what was said by William, not saying if it is true or not.
And I'm not saying that any of the royal family look like horses but implications may be made.
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And I'm not saying that any of the royal family look like horses but implications may be made.
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Maybe I'm not tuned into American humour but I didn't find that very funny
C'mon, not even the Piers Morgan moment?

But I think you're right in the sense that not even a light-hearted sketch like this can make these things appear funny.
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Well said, Mikers. My impression too, though not as succinct. The fact that they haven't detailed what was said in the allegedly racist conversation suggests to me that it may be something comparatively trivial, e.g. idle albeit crass speculation about the child's colour that might have many thinking "is that all?". But leaving it to the imagination lends it extra weight and sticks the knife in. If the royal family were really concerned about the skin colour of future royals, surely they wouldn't have welcomed Meghan into the family and walked her down the aisle in an extravagant wedding.

Regarding mental health, Meghan apparently had no trouble telling Oprah and the world that she felt suicidal, so it's reasonable to suppose she'd have had a similar lack of inhibition (completely at odds with my own experience) with disclosing how she felt to the people around her. I find it impossible to believe that the institution would have committed a breach of human rights by preventing her from consulting a psychiatrist or any other medical professional, especially as it would appear from information online that other royals, including Harry and Charles, have had mental health treatment/counselling themselves. So, if she didn't consult a medical professional, I wonder whether she really had been suicidal or whether less serious feelings of disillusionment with her new life have been exaggerated to stick it to the monarchy.

Can't help but wonder if the main problem is bitterness over money.
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Regarding mental health, Meghan apparently had no trouble telling Oprah and the world that she felt suicidal, so it's reasonable to suppose she'd have had a similar lack of inhibition (completely at odds with my own experience) with disclosing how she felt to the people around her. I find it impossible to believe that the institution would have committed a breach of human rights by preventing her from consulting a psychiatrist or any other medical professional, especially as it would appear from information online that other royals, including Harry and Charles, have had mental health treatment/counselling themselves. So, if she didn't consult a medical professional, I wonder whether she really had been suicidal or whether less serious feelings of disillusionment with her new life have been exaggerated to stick it to the monarchy.
Reading between the lines, as one has to when not given all the info.... I think the she spoke to palace staff about getting help, not the Royals themselves (Harry said he was too embarrassed to talk to the family). They couldn't help her as their job is to look after other staff's welfare not the family.

I also think, that she may have gone "American Celebrity" and wanted to go and check in to a clinic, which obviously was probably not thought to be a great idea. I find it very hard to believe that Harry would not have been able to organise for a Psychiatrist or Psychologist to visit the palace privately.
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Meghan has no doubt now had some professional help amd is therefore able to speak of her experiences.

All I know is thar when you're mired in the emotion, at that time, it can take more emotional resources than you have to speak up. And if scorned once...

The lack of sympathy and empathy towards this woman is astonishing. I have to conclude that many of you commenting have either been truly convinced by the media bias (of which there are many examples, see, for instance, avocados Kate and Meghan) or have never had a day's mental health blip in your lives and therefore simply do not understand. If it is the latter, then lucky you.

IMO a lot of the judgement on this thread is the equivalent of telling a victim of assault that she was asking for it because of the clothes she was wearing.
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I should be more surprised that anyone believes a word that was said in that interview. The best bit was when she compared herself to the The Little Mermaid, how she fell in love with a prince and lost her voice, but has now found it again
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Meghan has no doubt now had some professional help amd is therefore able to speak of her experiences.

All I know is thar when you're mired in the emotion, at that time, it can take more emotional resources than you have to speak up. And if scorned once...

The lack of sympathy and empathy towards this woman is astonishing. I have to conclude that many of you commenting have either been truly convinced by the media bias (of which there are many examples, see, for instance, avocados Kate and Meghan) or have never had a day's mental health blip in your lives and therefore simply do not understand. If it is the latter, then lucky you.

IMO a lot of the judgement on this thread is the equivalent of telling a victim of assault that she was asking for it because of the clothes she was wearing.
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Meghan has led us on to believe she is a strong empowering woman who takes charge of her life. If she had attacked the media for causing her mental health to decline, I would have understood. However, she attacked Harry's family in public and that's where I draw the line.

The speed of changes in her life since meeting Harry has been dizzying. I think she thought she could bend them for the greater good but bit off more than she could chew. Adding the hormones caused by pregnancy, it is understandable that she felt overwhelmed.

I understand all of that. However, you just don't attack your husband's family in an interview about a remark on skin colour without trying to resolve the situation within the family first. That's where I draw the line.®

I also take offence to those who question a person's experience with mental health when opposing Meghan. One thing has NOTHING to do with the other.
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And I'm not saying that any of the royal family look like horses but implications may be made.
Anyway, it's only Anne, not the WHOLE family!

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Anyway, it's only Anne, not the WHOLE family!

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Meghan has led us on to believe she is a strong empowering woman who takes charge of her life. If she had attacked the media for causing her mental health to decline, I would have understood. However, she attacked Harry's family in public and that's where I draw the line.

The speed of changes in her life since meeting Harry has been dizzying. I think she thought she could bend them for the greater good but bit off more than she could chew. Adding the hormones caused by pregnancy, it is understandable that she felt overwhelmed.

I understand all of that. However, you just don't attack your husband's family in an interview about a remark about skin colour without trying to resolve the situation within the family first. That's where I draw the line.®

I also take offence to those who question a person's experience with mental health when opposing Meghan. One thing has NOTHING to do with the other.
Actually, I believe both Meghan and Harry tried to attack the media with little support from the Royal family. Thatís where I think things started to break down, and from there it just exacerbated.

I donít follow British media but I looked at some of the media reports about Meghan, and there is definitely a racial bias that is inappropriate. Meghan is ďstraight out of Compton?Ē Seriously?

Everyone approaches their mental health in their own way. I find it offensive when people infer sheís lying because they would not react in the same way. Of course we donít react in the same way. One personís experience absolutely impacts the frame with which they view anotherís. That does not invalidate anyoneís experience, however.
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Meghan has no doubt now had some professional help amd is therefore able to speak of her experiences.

All I know is thar when you're mired in the emotion, at that time, it can take more emotional resources than you have to speak up. And if scorned once...

The lack of sympathy and empathy towards this woman is astonishing. I have to conclude that many of you commenting have either been truly convinced by the media bias (of which there are many examples, see, for instance, avocados Kate and Meghan) or have never had a day's mental health blip in your lives and therefore simply do not understand. If it is the latter, then lucky you.

IMO a lot of the judgement on this thread is the equivalent of telling a victim of assault that she was asking for it because of the clothes she was wearing.
I’d never have lack of sympathy for someone with mental health issues, I’ve had them myself. But something doesn’t ring true here. Harry has been shouting about supporting mental for a while now, he created heads together with William and Kate, yet he was embarrassed???

Personally, if she told Harry, I think it was Harry’s responsibility to get her a Psych appointment. As he’s done it for himself I find it very puzzling that he could not do it for his wife.
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