Sorry for the drive by post but I don't like manipulative team Meg or Team royalty!

A famous television critic in Italy wrote Meghan Markle interview: brilliant lesson from Oprah Winfrey

Charlie Hebdo has been criticised over that cartoon.

Charlie Hebdo criticised for 'offensive' cartoon of Meghan

From TRT World, apparently a Turkish state-owned news channel:

On another expat forum there's a thread on this topic, dominated by American women sympathetic to Harry and Meghan and critical of the royals. One recently posted that anyone denying they're a racist (like Prince William) is therefore a racist [sic]. Another agreed. I can't follow that logic and didn't dare reply, as Brits with royalist tendencies are very much unwanted in the discussion, critics of the Meghan/Harry narrative especially so, but that seems to be where we are now.

I think you have a very secure place on EF. We welcome all.

the interview is very deliberate. Where there might be some truth in what they said, I am taking it with a pinch of salt with fault on both sides.

I am not a fan of either side.

To add to that, the best woman on Suits was the redhead. Looking, acting, everything

I think there are some Americans (and especially American women) who will quickly and eagerly believe anything they see or hear in an Oprah Winfrey interview.

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I don't really have any solid opinions about Meghan or their situation, but I have come across a few articles about Meghan having Narcissistic Personality Disorder and being very controlling of Harry. Of course, I have no idea if that is indeed true, but I do know that playing the victim in order to get attention as well as blame-shifting are things that narcissists often do.

But I can certainly understand if she and Harry don't want to continue to have their lives dictated by a monarchy. Whether or not the accusations of racism were created or exaggerated as a means to try to make them appear justified for leaving the family, I have no idea, and I'm not sure if anyone outside of that situation really knows for sure. But I do wonder if it's ever really crossed Meghan's mind that her having come into Harry's life has torn him away from his family and is now, essentially, trying to tear his family apart in general.

With Oprah... I think it's just all about those ratings. I think she does a good job of simultaneously trying to pretend that she genuinely cares about the people she interviews while also exploiting their personal lives on national television for profit.

I don’t especially care one way or the other about Meghan as a person, but I see a lot of piling on her as a vicious manipulative woman wrenching Harry away from his loving family. As if. I am an American, and definitely not a royalist, so I don’t have the same attachment to these folk as many Brits do. I think Harry wanted to get away from the mess as much as Megan did....i don’t think Harry is a weak, easily manipulated creature. It’s convenient to portray him as such because it makes Meghan look even worse.

I don’t know about the Royal Family, but I do know that the British press has been quite nasty toward Meghan. Just compare similar headlines and articles about the pregnancies of Catherine and that of Meghan. Motivated by racism? Don’t know, but certainly prejudice.

I do know a number of people of color from the UK and many of them seem to believe the Royal Family is racist. I trust a lot of their assessments.

As for Oprah. She’s not doing a public service. She’s producing an entertainment program for big ratings and cash.

Yes it is tough when you aren’t from the UK yet have to make judgements on whether it’s press are prejudiced, which you clearly can.

I find it’s the same about America: I know nothing really about the country except that the police beat up black people at will so it’s pretty clear the whole country has a bit of a color problem.

Not tough at all.

Here’s an interesting compilation of headlines comparing Middleton and Markle doing pretty much the same thing.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...tandards-royal


And yes, the US does have a serious issue with race.

One can't follow the logic, because there isn't any. This is Critical Race Theory pure, that at its core is the assumption that all white people are racist. Leave this divisive, dangerous and vile ideology away from Europe.

Same as most countries then.

Tom

Good spot, it confirms my thoughts all along: Buzzfeed is clearly a racist news publication.

Now then, who else shall we tar with the brush of racism. We’ve done the royal family and all the press. Perhaps the tories ? Always good to chuck a racism card at the Conservatives.

You seem to be having fun with it.....carry on.

Good ole Buzzfeed! Not so sure they are the most objective but which media outlet is nowadays?

https://www.allsides.com/news-source...eed-media-bias

PS..Buzzfeed is decidedly left so of course they would cherry pick sources which reinforce Meghan's "victim" accusation.

Sorry, I have read quite a bit and I am not on Team Meghan.

I think she thought she could change things but had no idea what she was getting into and wanted out once she realized. Now, how to convince Harry?

Mind you, I cannot blame her for wanting out as I would hate that role as well. But I do not buy her "victim" stance. She may have been naive about entering "The Firm" and thought she could change things. But, she is/was no victim.

In fact, I think she accelerated the backlash/criticism to get out. She has her "Prince" and they now have money - more than either would have had before they met each other. Hollywood beckons! Wow! What a fairytale

I should add here that Harry had quite a sum but that involved the constant drudgery of commitments mandated by HRH/The Firm. Now they get to cherry pick which non-profit they will support and at their leisure. Freedom/wealth without duty/responsibility nor service. A win/win!

Buzzfeed curated headlines from UK sources. I don’t agree with your assessment.

I think it's unfortunate that this has caused so many people to take sides, even going so far as to cause arguments among people. I blame much of that on the media. Many people get their "facts" from the media and then instinctively form and base their opinions on that, when in truth, we rarely know the full scope of a story or situation.

But there were other headlines from other UK papers...no??? Headlines they/Buzzfeed specifically chose to cite or ignore to support their narrative.

Such is life with media outlets these days...

Actually, what buzfeed did was to take the same/similar topic, from the same source and show the headline and story as it referred to Middleton and to Markle. It demonstrates bias within the source (like the examiner, daily mail and so on).

To be honest though, this is way more time than anyone needs to spend on this crap.

I am all for calling out racism where racism exists. But it is now fashionable in woke culture to call racism even when it doesn't exist and make genuinely nice moderate people feel like shit. The result being nice moderate people feel like they can't say anything, ask questions or debate. I can't see long term how this will be good for reducing racism at all.

I don't agree that Meghan was a victim; so let's agree to disagree if that is possible