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In other words Kate has become a Royal brood mare and just has to look pretty for photo ops. No notion of a life.
That's the life she understood and chose when marrying the Royal Family. It's the price for the extreme privilege that comes along with it!
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That's the life she understood and chose when marrying the Royal Family. It's the price for the extreme privilege that comes along with it!
That's as maybe but is total submission/loss of self really what you should have pay?
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Maybe Kate doesn't take the role of a model woman, looking pretty on pics, as such an injustice and actually likes it. If I was a royal, I'd also make sure of a no notion of my private life, out of respect for my family. She seems to not have a problem with all this, doesn't feel opressed nor in submission despite some women maybe wanting her to. Who knows...I feel the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from her husband. But I am not from the UK nor exposed to the royal shinenigans.
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Old 17.03.2021, 16:38
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That's as maybe but is total submission/loss of self really what you should have pay?
She didn't have to pay, she wasn't forced into it, it was her choice to do so. Can you not respect her decision?
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She didn't have to pay, she wasn't forced into it, it was her choice to do so. Can you not respect her decision?
Sure. If it was 100% her choice. Can you sound a little less aggressive?

I find it fascinating how "traditional" Kate is defended whereas Meghan is vilified even while pregnant.

MC, what did you mean by "discipline from her husband "?
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

I always laugh at all the stuff about Kate supposedly heading to St Andrews University as an undergraduate because William had a place there. I can assure you as a Fifer, ordinary mortals don't get in there that easily even if they're public school educated.

She had already accepted a place - William was bound for Edinburgh, then a few weeks before the start of his first semester there were worries about press intrusion and security with Edinburgh being a busy city. He was advised St Andrews would be better as it's a small coastal town and nobody would bother him there. The rest as they say is history
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MC, what did you mean by "discipline from her husband "?
That's not what she said, she said:

"I feel notice the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from in her husband".

Tom

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That's not what she said, she said:

"I feel notice the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from her husband".

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I should have maybe said self-discipline.

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I feel the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from her husband. .
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That's not what she said, she said:

"I feel notice the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from her husband".

Tom

Open for interpretation or rather can be misunderstood, he disciplines her or he has the same discipline in doing his job?
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I should have maybe said self-discipline. .
I don't think anyone would accuse William of "disciplining" Kate.
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he disciplines her
I would expect that to be "by her husband" though.
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I don't think anyone would accuse William of "disciplining" Kate.
Kinky Kate?

Has a nice ring to it.
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Open for interpretation
Not to native English speakers.

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"I feel notice the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from in her husband".
Fixed for the numpties who suck at understanding non-native English speakers.

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Open for interpretation or rather can be misunderstood, he disciplines her or he has the same discipline in doing his job?
I see.....I've missed a hell lot of "interesting" stuff here.
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I would expect that to be "by her husband" though.

Kinky Kate?

Has a nice ring to it.
It is a bit kitch. And considering that that title probably belongs to all wives at some point, not roally exquisite.
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Who knows...I feel the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from her husband. But I am not from the UK nor exposed to the royal shinenigans.
I don't even try to imagine their marriage. No wonder the press fabulates a lot on these sort of things. The public wants it. Dirt sells.
I think behind their glamours facade they're a pretty normal couple. Except they're a couple who has a lot of help to put up that facade - butlers, maids, hairdressers, nannies, you name it.
But, they have little privacy. I wouldn't like to be hunted mercilessly by a fanatic press, it's hard enough to establish boundaries on a public forum like EF lol. Every apparition of theirs is judged and dissected like there's no tomorrow, like the world problems have been all solved.
I don't think Kate likes it, who would like that.
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I don't even try to imagine their marriage. No wonder the press fabulates a lot on these sort of things. The public wants it. Dirt sells.
I think behind their glamours facade they're a pretty normal couple. Except they're a couple who has a lot of help to put up that facade - butlers, maids, hairdressers, nannies, you name it.
But, they have little privacy. I wouldn't like to be hunted mercilessly by a fanatic press, it's hard enough to establish boundaries on a public forum like EF lol. Every apparition of theirs is judged and dissected like there's no tomorrow, like the world problems have been all solved.
I don't think Kate likes it, who would like that.

I disagree. If they wanted privacy, they wouldn't have done the interview. If they wanted privacy, they wouldn't leak family affairs to the press via Gayle King. I don't think they want privacy in as much as they want to control the media and the way they're presented.
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I disagree. If they wanted privacy, they wouldn't have done the interview. If they wanted privacy, they wouldn't leak family affairs to the press via Gayle King. I don't think they want privacy in as much as they want to control the media and the way they're presented.
Well, I meant the other royals -Kate and William*. According to EF they were also hunted by the media - how they met, was it staged, what her family is like, etc etc. But if the shoe fits....I think my post could have been about Meghan and Harry too..

I don't think Kate et.co had it easy in the beginning. There's a difference between the way these two couples or rather the women in the couple (as always) were treated though. You might agree or disagree with that and I don't want to excuse, accuse or explain in any way that interview with Oprah.
Suffice to say - it was a good global distraction from corona...

This is an article which presents the other side, the pro-Meghan side, don't know how "true" it is, it's just another POV if you want.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/o...nce-harry.html

Edit: btw, who's Gayle King? Do they try to literally feed the media with their stories not media's stories? I can't say I blame them.

Not specifically @olygirl.
*I personally don't think Kate didn't know what to expect from her role. If I recall correctly she was about 30 when they married and both knew each other for years. I don't think she's submissive and needed to be "disciplined" by William either. What a silly idea. I think she learned everything about royal protocol long before they married. Give people more credit.

And for goodness sake, let these two women.....breath.

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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Gayle King is a newscaster and BFF of Oprah's. I believe they met while working for TV network back in the day (long before Oprah made it big with her talk show).

I am not sure Gayle King would be as successful were it not for her association with Oprah as she was referenced/featured often by Oprah on her talk show.
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I feel the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from her husband. But I am not from the UK nor exposed to the royal shinenigans.

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That's not what she said, she said:

"I feel notice the same respect, maturity, selflessness and discipline from in her husband".

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Not to native English speakers.

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Yes, it's open to interpretation even from native English speakers.

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Fixed for the numpties who suck at understanding non-native English speakers.

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There's non-native and there's a claim of fluency...

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