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So basically everything is about Meghan and how extraordinary Meghan is.

I just can't understand how you could ever of doubted it !
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I just can't understand how you could ever of doubted it !
I'm just surprised that she is not Time's Person of the Year, but they chose some guy we've never heard of.
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Yes, it is nothing more than the Worlds most expensive Instagram page
You have to give them something though, they bit the gut press and social media at their own game...100 million dollars for their story? Wow!!!

There's an article here I just read in The Atlantic this morning and I happen to be on the same page with the author on most if not all points...
Read it, no-one could have done a better review of this series

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...x-show/672400/

Anyway, I can't blame (only) Netflix for the business model they have chosen. They're not the only ones. I just wish they would include more real movies into their programme....thinking more of it...maybe that model does not bring a lot of money so there's that too.
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Dont agree with giving them any credit apart from business. I mean from a brand management perspective, perhaps, you can hand them a strong award for relentless building of their brand. And for Business Acumen, I would definitely award them in the sense that they have pursued their monetary goal without any pause or glance sideways to the damage it may cause to other people. She will get her her money, no matter what may happen to everyone else. that message comes screaming through.

What is really impressive about it is perhaps the way it is working. I mean they have no message, except a made up fairytail that she has been a weak and bullied innocent girl torn to shreds by a commercial machine that is the royal family, when in fact the opposite is true. She has been filming, controlling every narrative, making every adjustment she needs from the moment she got into the royal family with the sole aim of making as much money and being as popular and powerful as she can.

The poor people who worked for her who were regularly reduced to tears by her relentless screaming at them, they are all forced under NDA's not to reveal their side of the story and the royal family itself cannot respond as it will only stoke the flames of Hollywood power to build Brand H&M further.

They have literally no other story. If it wasn't for the story about how terrible the royal family are they couldn't make the money. Its their own red top headline they need to keep going, which is ironically what they complained about all along.

And of course, they start a charity as a holding vehicle for the moral side of it, so the money has the impression of doing good, when rest assured at 100 million dollars and with her in charge of it, every penny will go to them.

I have seen some unkind people in the world, but Meghan Markle is the epitomoy of a nasty piece of work.
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

I would like to see how Netflix generally does in the future anyway. They have been struggling since quite a while due their content that just gets worse and worse (not everyone is into badly dubbed Polish or Italian series / movies). The good or entertaining content is very few and far-between nowadays.

I am keeping a very critical eye on it this year, as I have been thinking of canceling my very long-term subscription since quite a while. This shitty series (which they have the gall to drag out on a week to week basis), was the straw that broke the camels back.
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I would like to see how Netflix generally does in the future anyway. They have been struggling since quite a while due their content that just gets worse and worse (not everyone is into badly dubbed Polish or Italian series / movies). The good or entertaining content is very few and far-between nowadays.

I am keeping a very critical eye on it this year, as I have been thinking of canceling my very long-term subscription since quite a while. This shitty series (which they have the gall to drag out on a week to week basis), was the straw that broke the camels back.
The series will be popular, I think it broke their records for the first part when it was aired. I'm more concerned about how it shows nowadays that you can literally build a complete and utter fabrication and the world or society in general will take it. And we are still in a transitional state before the real heavy hitting takes off, with topics such as deepfakes where it is possible to literally make people appear to be doing things they are not.

In 5 years it may well be possible for Meghan to show a Raging prince wiliam bawling "get out of here you, revolting, coloured, piece of shit!" with absolute accuracy, all generated using the commercially avilable footage of him walking around doing his job and some good AI. Examples are becoming well known of celebrities being shown out of context. When this kind of tech arrives and is commercially available to all, then combine that with the win-at-all-costs nature of someone like Markel, its a perfect storm.
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Old 12.12.2022, 13:01
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

I think Meghan and Harry as a royal couple are literally the best thing that could happen to Catherine and William. As far as I know Catherine (and her family) was "eviscerated" by the gut press before her wedding with William, even after their wedding...of course Catherine learned to fit in with time and was rather humble in the beginning, not responding to criticism and unnecessary attacks, but to put her next to Meghan...now? She seems like a godsend made-not-born royal to the British monarchy. I personally always liked her and now she seems like she's perfectly comfortable in her role and with her position.
She'll be like Queen Sylvia of Sweden (if I may compare the two of them), only much more nicer...
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I think Meghan and Harry as a royal couple are literally the best thing that could happen to Catherine and William. As far as I know Catherine (and her family) was "eviscerated" by the gut press before her wedding with William, even after their wedding...of course Catherine learned to fit in with time and was rather humble in the beginning, not responding to criticism and unnecessary attacks, but to put her next to Meghan...now? She seems like a godsend made-not-born royal to the British monarchy. I personally always liked her and now she seems like she's perfectly comfortable in her role and with her position.
She'll be like Queen Sylvia of Sweden (if I may compare the two of them), only much more nicer...
Catherine was the one in the tabloid crosshairs for long enough. Prior to the engagement and right up until the first two kids came along, and then Harry met someone the tabloids could really generate some full-throttle hate and clickbait. I'm sure she was only too happy to hand over the mantel of "harassed royal".

You can see the bare-faced double standards in articles such as recently where Catherine is lauded for "channelling" Princess Diana ("Ooh, look at all these vaguely similar dresses and earrings! She's such an angel!") whereas Meghan was utterly vilified for wearing anything vaguely reminiscent of Diana ("How very dare she??", "She's not fit to clean Diana's SHOES!").
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The series will be popular, I think it broke their records for the first part when it was aired. I'm more concerned about how it shows nowadays that you can literally build a complete and utter fabrication and the world or society in general will take it.
I find it strange and almost shocking that people would want to watch these vacuous liars complaining, while living surrounded by luxury, servants and bodyguards.
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Catherine was the one in the tabloid crosshairs for long enough. Prior to the engagement and right up until the first two kids came along, and then Harry met someone the tabloids could really generate some full-throttle hate and clickbait. I'm sure she was only too happy to hand over the mantel of "harassed royal".

You can see the bare-faced double standards in articles such as recently where Catherine is lauded for "channelling" Princess Diana ("Ooh, look at all these vaguely similar dresses and earrings! She's such an angel!") whereas Meghan was utterly vilified for wearing anything vaguely reminiscent of Diana ("How very dare she??", "She's not fit to clean Diana's SHOES!").
That sounds like very double standards. Do you have the links by any chance ? I remember seeing lots of articles really gushing about meghan markle when they got engaged - and indeed it has now emerged that Ms Markle controlled every piece of the broadcast of their engagement.

The bare faced difference does exist, it is between how Catherine has behaved, which is to not comment, or complain, or be a victim, or try to make money out of the media vs ms Markle, who has done all of the above, in spades.

The press double standards is yet another strand of their brand to enhance their publicity. Any news is good news, so by complaining that the press treat them differently - which leads neatly onto playing the race card - they get a lot of visibility in America, which is the overall aim. Its very astute brand management.
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That sounds like very double standards. Do you have the links by any chance ?
Just do what I do and idly scroll through all the tabloid pieces when you're bored and fancy a laugh. If you want all the tabloid nastiness condensed and a spotlight shone on the difference in treatment of Kate and Meghan, follow @TheDMReporter on Twitter.

I don't have any skin in the royal antics but even I wince at the ferocity of the articles.
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The latest trailer is out - ouch!

https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1...qwjIV-9mwuUQYg
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Harry & Meghan or how can i continue to be rich and famous without doing anything. I think it's great what's going on. More and more intelligent people are seeing what a cancer the royal family is and this brings their inevitable end a bit closer.
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Harry & Meghan or how can i continue to be rich and famous without doing anything. I think it's great what's going on. More and more intelligent people are seeing what a cancer the royal family is and this brings their inevitable end a bit closer.
I dont get it. How is the Royal family a cancer ? What is it they do that is so terrible ? I thought they promoted their country (remember many countries have royal families) and had a number of theoretical legal powers, none of which they ever actually use.

So why are they likened to a cancer, I dont get it ?
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So why are they likened to a cancer, I dont get it ?
You can't get rid of them, unless you force them out. Sort of like cancer.
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Catherine was the one in the tabloid crosshairs for long enough. Prior to the engagement and right up until the first two kids came along, and then Harry met someone the tabloids could really generate some full-throttle hate and clickbait. I'm sure she was only too happy to hand over the mantel of "harassed royal".

You can see the bare-faced double standards in articles such as recently where Catherine is lauded for "channelling" Princess Diana ("Ooh, look at all these vaguely similar dresses and earrings! She's such an angel!") whereas Meghan was utterly vilified for wearing anything vaguely reminiscent of Diana ("How very dare she??", "She's not fit to clean Diana's SHOES!").
You know, this is the exactly the thing - when I read those tabloids (usually only when in the smallest room of the flat ), I have in the past always and without fail skipped over those articles about the royals. Now, even I am reading them. Netflix, M and H and all their PR people knew exactly what they were doing i.e. that it would get them even more attention, They just took it to American levels, and deserve all the bad feedback they deserve.
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You can't get rid of them, unless you force them out. Sort of like cancer.
I think you need a population that wants to "force" them out first. Just before the Platinum Jubilee earlier this year the monarchy was supported by 67% of those surveyed (fewer young people, though). Whether this will change for the better or the worse under Charlie remains to be seen.
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I think you need a population that wants to "force" them out first. Just before the Platinum Jubilee earlier this year the monarchy was supported by 67% of those surveyed (fewer young people, though). Whether this will change for the better or the worse under Charlie remains to be seen.
"Read your own link" is rule No1

"...only 31% of 18–24 year olds were in favour of the monarchy..."

In other words, there seems to be a significant overlap between the poeple who voted pro Brexit and support the Monarchy and the people who voted PRO Europe and don't support the Monarchy. Get it?
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"Read your own link" is rule No1

"...only 31% of 1824 year olds were in favour of the monarchy..."

In other words, there seems to be a significant overlap between the poeple who voted pro Brexit and support the Monarchy and the people who voted PRO Europe and don't support the Monarchy. Get it?
Well I did point out that there were fewer younger people supporting the monarchy.

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There is probably some truth in the more traditionalist end of the population who love all the pomp and circumstance, and love to give two fingers to the EU at the same time. Nonetheless, I don't think there's much of an appetite to unseat the monarchy at the moment. Maybe after Charlie's dropped a few clangers and the older generation have slipped off the mortal coil though?
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You can't get rid of them, unless you force them out. Sort of like cancer.
That doesnt answer the question as to why you don't like them though ? The point is why do you even want them out ? I dont see what harm they do, they generate income for the country, they are part of the history. What are they doing that is so offensive is what I dont understand ?
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