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Is that Mr or Mrs?
No.
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Reviving because of the interview.

Take aways from the interview with Oprah:

- the firm is bad
- don't ever mention a child's possible skin colour
- Meghan was suicidal
- Harry's a decent guy
- Charles can be a dick
- The queen is lovely
- Harry and Meghan aren't that rich (apart from the 30 million dollars he received from his mother)
- Charles, William and Kate are trapped
- The firm spreads lies or doesn't counteract them.

Did I miss anything?
Didn't they give up royalty etc. etc. ?

Why does Oprah bother with interviewing ordinary, plain people? And why do people watch the interview?
Am I to expect my neighbour to be interviewed next and supposed to watch it?
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Why does Oprah bother with interviewing ordinary, plain people? And why do people watch the interview?
Because they are related to and have gossip on the Royal Family.
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Old 08.03.2021, 14:39
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Because they are related to and have gossip on the Royal Family.
Not just related to the Royal family. Harry is part of the royal family and, unless the law is changed, is sixth in line to the throne which may seem far off and extremely unlikely but the four above him are all in the same immediate family.
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So yet again a man marries his „mother“...
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Meghan could never understand that being part of the Royal Family is about duty and service to the country - it's not done for personal gain. Of course you enjoy all the rights and privileges that go with it, nice homes, travel, cars etc. and while they are wealthy it's not about making money.

I think the feeling of power went to her head, as coming from an ordinary background and having had no upbringing in "society" she thought she could order staff about and act as a prima donna. She never could accept she had to defer to Kate for example.

As to being "silenced", of course Winfrey wants to make scandal, it makes for good TV, but the reality is all the members of the Royal Family, and those joining by way of friendship or marriage, are told quite strictly "you don't speak about what goes on behind closed doors". Even PM's do not talk about their conversations with the Queen, bar the odd gaff or two, so are they being "silenced"? The notion is quite ridiculous.

No, this is a self centered, selfish, arrogant woman, who doesn't care who she hurts as long as she gets her way! From a two bit actress she wants fame and fortune and none of her A list friends would go anywhere near her where it not for who she married!!
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

anyone from team Meghan care to comment? I don't want this thread to be one sided...
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anyone from team Meghan care to comment? I don't want this thread to be one sided...
Can I be on neither team?
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Old 08.03.2021, 17:31
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Whatever their motives for going on Oprah are, it is really unsavoury to be hanging all your dirty laundry for the entire world to hear and see. Maybe it’s not so bad if one would stand to rake in millions and have a priceless amount of publicity from it
This. For a couple who "stepped back" because of all the publicity and being hounded by paparazzi they seem to be doing nothing but courting the same thing ever since. They're never going to be completely out of the limelight, but they could do a hell of a lot more to step back than they have.
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No, this is a self centered, selfish, arrogant woman, who doesn't care who she hurts as long as she gets her way!
Ice Cube on Donald Trump, April 2016.

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"Donald Trump is what Americans love. Donald Trump is what Americans aspire to be -- rich, powerful, do what you wanna do, say what you wanna say, be how you wanna be," the rapper-actor said about Trump's appeal. "That’s kind of been like the American dream. He looks like a boss to everybody, and Americans love to have a boss."
https://www.billboard.com/articles/c...rump-interview

Do you what you wanna do, say what you wanna say, be how you wanna be......it could be the lyrics of a catchy song. So, based on the Mr. Cube's opinion, it seems TV producers are doing a damned fine job.
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Old 08.03.2021, 17:40
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So yet again a man marries his „mother“...

Amazing how a country reacts to a woman saying she considered suicide.

The same country that had a mass outpouring of hysterical ‘grief’ back in 1997 for another woman who had been hounded by the media, literally chased to death by the paparazzi.
The hypocrisy is astonishing.
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Old 08.03.2021, 17:46
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Prince Philip, had number of decades suffering prejudice, there was a dergoatory term used, as a Greek, that I will not repeat here.
A tad strange now Royal Family seem to be accused as being rascist. Then another term from a Tom Cruise film, 'The Firm', used in not a nice way.
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Old 08.03.2021, 17:53
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Re: [Prince] Harry and Meghan

Two things- first, I think there are different ways of asking what the kid will look like. There’s the excited - ooh, who do you think he’ll resemble? Innocent curiosity. And then there’s the - so how dark is this kid going to be, which sounds a bit more nefarious, and yes, smidgen away from - he’s not going to be too dark, is he? Clearly, none of us were there so who knows. Smells racist to me but whatever.

The suicide thing is troubling —- I find it unconscionable that a person at risk of suicide is not offered help because of “optics”. But I’m an American - I think all this stuff upper lip duty crap is bullshit. And I do think the British media has been vicious with respect to Meghan. I’m also white, but a lot of POC I respect are saying there was racism, colonialism in Meghan’s treatment.

Will I watch the interview? I doubt it. I don’t care that much. I hope they have a healthy baby and a nice life. But the cult of celebrity is boring.
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Amazing how a country reacts to a woman saying she considered suicide.

The same country that had a mass outpouring of hysterical ‘grief’ back in 1997 for another woman who had been hounded by the media, literally chased to death by the paparazzi.
The hypocrisy is astonishing.
Since I'm not British I don't get all the royal hype but I do find it kind of fascinating how people react.

Diana was raised as a Lady, the daughter of an Earl. She was taught how to behave in certain circles. Charles married her out of duty, because Diana was considered a more "suitable" bride than Camilla. Duty above love and all that. Diana, knowing her duty as well, suffered quite a long while before the relationship finally collapsed. She was also suicial but she didn't dare go public with it and I'm fairly sure she didn't get any mental health help. Stiff upper lip, Princess!

Meghan and Harry had a relatively short relationship before marriage. Even she admits she didn't know what she was getting into by joining the royal family. Shouldn't Harry have helped her get an idea since he's so focused on how his mother handled it all? Catherine was groomed for a long time before she and William married.

Harry has always had a bit of a rebellious streak it seems. Marrying an American and leaving the royal family fits that image.

If they're happy, good for them. Doesn't affect my life in the least.
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Old 08.03.2021, 18:01
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Clearly, none of us were there so who knows. Smells racist to me but whatever.

The suicide thing is troubling —- I find it unconscionable that a person at risk of suicide is not offered help because of “optics”. But I’m an American - I think all this stuff upper lip duty crap is bullshit. And I do think the British media has been vicious with respect to Meghan. I’m also white, but a lot of POC I respect are saying there was racism, colonialism in Meghan’s treatment.
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Exactly this - we haven't been there. I can imagine idiotic, snobbish upper lip remarks, of course people will deny the intention was to diminish etc etc They were just...honest? You know, the type of comments you hear sometimes and you don't know how to react.
Anyways, I don't see what's the problem here - she spoke up about their perceived treatment, let's move on. She's not "evil" for that.
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I didn't watch the interview either but I have read some articles regarding the interview.

I have a very hard time with a couple who claim to want to save the world's resources and live an "authentic" life. And then proceed to buy a GBP 11 million home with 18,000 square ft (1672 square meters) replete with 9 bedrooms and 16 bathrooms and a guest cottage as well.

If one is so concerned about the environment, why the excessive consumption?

My sense is that Meghan wanted the fairytale/extravagant lifestyle but did not realize there is a tremendous cost in attaining this lifestyle by marrying a prince: namely, duty, sacrifice and service. I, personally, would hate the job - notwithstanding the scrutiny...
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Meghan could never understand that being part of the Royal Family is about duty and service to the country - it's not done for personal gain.
Don't make me laugh. I'd like to see how many of the royal family would continue their selfless public service without the perks of being waited on hand and foot, and being treated far beyond A-list standards in every aspect of their lives.

Prince Charles insisted on one of his valets squeezing the toothpaste onto his toothbrush for him, and is worth an estimated £400m, according to a few sources. Duty and service indeed.
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Royalty/monarchy, repugnant institution in modern times

When you consider all that is going on in the world today, it beggars belief that the trials & tribulations of privileged elites is a topic of interest
Maybe one can say the same about football players and supporters, eh FCBarca.
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Maybe one can say the same about football players and supporters, eh FCBarca.
Football players aren't born into their clubs. Supporters go for merit?

I think if one's monarch is not a burden on the society but a perk, let people have their royal celebrities..Royalty in UK seem to enjoy a lot of respect, the stability seems to help?

It must be tough trying to live a normal life for Harry and Meghan, they know that they will never really have it.
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Meghan and Harry had a relatively short relationship before marriage. Even she admits she didn't know what she was getting into by joining the royal family. Shouldn't Harry have helped her get an idea since he's so focused on how his mother handled it all? Catherine was groomed for a long time before she and William married.

Harry has always had a bit of a rebellious streak it seems. Marrying an American and leaving the royal family fits that image.

If they're happy, good for them. Doesn't affect my life in the least.
You can imagine the shock and horror when he presented his future bride. I think at first they camouflaged well their feelings, hoping the boy would come to his senses, break up with the American actress and marry a nice girl from their circle.
Harry couldn't care less, obviously. I don't know, apparently love is colour and nationality blind.
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