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The problem with twisting definitions is that there unexpected side effects, it would be a pity if people did not holiday in Sweden and instead went to more dangerous places.

Here’s where you’re most likely to be murdered while on holiday if you’re British.

You see Sweden is not listed
Just stop with your irrelevant links and widening discussions in an attempt to find somewhere something that in your opinion helps to prove you are correct.

Your definition of a no-go area is one where the police does not go, you support this in your opinion by coming up with examples and even state yourself that the police does go to one of them, and we all know that the police also appears in the favela's. But we are not allowed to say no-go area due to the police going there.

Make up your mind.

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An area that is dangerous or impossible to enter or to which entry is restricted or forbidden.
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If you refer to a place as a no-go area, you mean that it has a reputation for violence and crime which makes people frightened to go there.
So stop your whole ridiculous point of that people are only allowed to use no-go area in the exact same meaning as you hold on to, the meaning has been widely used for these areas for at least decades and you are not going to change this.
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Old 11.03.2018, 14:10
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Well it does counter your comment:

''No room for the economic migrant who wants to move to a place with more opportunities to carve out a living for themselves and their families?''

No Sandgrounder, unfortunately Europe is not the home for the rest of the world nor can it accept everyone who wants to work and carve out a living for themselves and their families.
Luckily there is room for you and me
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Old 11.03.2018, 14:15
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Re: What's Happening to Sweden?

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Just stop with your irrelevant links and widening discussions in an attempt to find somewhere something that in your opinion helps to prove you are correct.

Your definition of a no-go area is one where the police does not go, you support this in your opinion by coming up with examples and even state yourself that the police does go to one of them, and we all know that the police also appears in the favela's. But we are not allowed to say no-go area due to the police going there.

Make up your mind.

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So stop your whole ridiculous point of that people are only allowed to use no-go area in the exact same meaning as you hold on to, the meaning has been widely used for these areas for at least decades and you are not going to change this.
no go zone
n., 1. an area designated by a neighborhood in which no cops and/or military (esp. foreign occupiers) are allowed to go or suffer armed resistance.
2.some other restricted area, like a bedroom or the cookie jar

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no go zone
n., 1. an area designated by a neighborhood in which no cops and/or military (esp. foreign occupiers) are allowed to go or suffer armed resistance.
2.some other restricted area, like a bedroom or the cookie jar
But you said that the Walled City in Hong Kong was a "real no go zone" yet you also said the police would venture into it in large groups

According to your new (and everchanging) definition then it woud not be considered a no go zone, oder?
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Old 11.03.2018, 14:47
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But you said that the Walled City in Hong Kong was a "real no go zone" yet you also said the police would venture into it in large groups

According to your new (and everchanging) definition then it woud not be considered a no go zone, oder?
So you agree there are no "no go zones" in Sweden.
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Old 11.03.2018, 14:54
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Either you are a refugee - then you'll be happy for a roof above your head, a warm bed to sleep in, safety of not getting shot, and meals.

Or you're an economic migrant, someone who wants to leech systems that they've never contributed to, and take advantage of hard work of others..
Many a time is combined, you know. Nobody can deny that Syrians are war refugees, yet they still have their own preferences for emigrating and probably feel that some destinations that Western Europe is trying so hard to sell them now (after years of demonising lol, isn't karma great), it's beneath them. Yes, read carefully, beneath them. Others come from areas where wars and tribal conflicts are not very unlikely to pop up at any given time, or areas where there are no basics like, you know - water. All of them want a good start.
Now for instance back home the Turkish minority feels very humiliated by some of the Arab immigrants who tell them they're not proper Muslims. And that islam should be taught and felt in a certain way. They are the ones who warned authorities a few times in regards with sectarian proliferation, but who listens to them - just a tiny historical minority opposing such a big trend. Things are so complicated that at the end of the day the best solution is that each country should decide for its own. I believe more in citizen rights than in other hypes.
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So you agree there are no "no go zones" in Sweden.
Just answer the question.
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Re: What's Happening to Sweden?

"Oh you're from Sweden, so I guess you must love cheese and chocolate right?"

"No that's Switzerland. I'm from Sweden, you know, the politically correct joke of a country with a feminist government"

"Ah right yeah, I always mix those up"
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Old 11.03.2018, 21:17
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"Oh you're from Sweden, so I guess you must love cheese and chocolate right?"

"No that's Switzerland. I'm from Sweden, you know, the politically correct joke of a country with a feminist government"

"Ah right yeah, I always mix those up"
Thanks for sharing.

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Now for instance back home the Turkish minority feels very humiliated by some of the Arab immigrants who tell them they're not proper Muslims.
that's more like Kindergarten behavior than a real problem.
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that's more like Kindergarten behavior than a real problem.
It's a kindergarten problem (maybe, but wouldn't dismiss it so quickly as there are other things that prove their claims) till it begins to be a real problem. I think that even in Europe the extension of the common market was relatively too fast, and the perception in the collective imaginary - catastrophic. So it will be with this thing too. Western Europe didn't quite get used with the previous waves of immigrants from former collonies when they had to start the whole process from the beginning. Others - emigration countries, still have problems with attracting back their specialists and their qualified work force. What happens now, even with the best of intentions, is doomed to fail if people have not enough resources - human resources and material resources. I don't agree with ghettoisation as a form of "integration".
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Old 12.03.2018, 09:00
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Re: What's Happening to Sweden?

50 Shootings and murders recorded so far in 2018:

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50 Shootings and murders recorded so far in 2018:

50? Peanuts!
370 people shot so far this year in one city Chicagao, link.
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Re: What's Happening to Sweden?

Why are young men in Sweden shooting each other?

Most gang members are indeed first- or second-generation immigrants—72% of them, according to one report
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Old 12.03.2018, 11:52
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Why are young men in Sweden shooting each other?

Most gang members are indeed first- or second-generation immigrants—72% of them, according to one report but they tend not to be new arrivals
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You only quoted part of the sentence!

From your link "Some blame the refugee crisis of 2015, when Sweden took in the most asylum-seekers per capita in Europe. But shootings with illegal guns have been rising since the mid-2000s."

"Sweden accepted lots of asylum-seekers in the 1980s and 1990s from countries like Iraq, Somalia and the former Yugoslavia."

As you know the hand grenades are sourced from the Balkans.
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but they tend not to be mew arrivals
It takes years for migrants to be settled enough to be sucked into crime, says Amir Rostami of Stockholm University.

Didn't they just take in a lot of new migrants recently?
Next few years should be interesting!
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Old 12.03.2018, 12:13
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It takes years for migrants to be settled enough to be sucked into crime, says Amir Rostami of Stockholm University.

Didn't they just take in a lot of new migrants recently?
Next few years should be interesting!
Can we now please agree wether or not all those muslims are raping "our women"? Or from what year on are they integrated enough that they'd start raping?
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A simple brainfart? Not politically motivated?

It looks completely intentionally politically correct to me. And the system will squirm when firing them. Because nobody can even say that political correctness is, in fact, an act of injustice.
Your source for that statement is what exactly? Do note that assumptions and opinions are irrelevant in cases such as this.
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Can we now please agree wether or not all those muslims are raping "our women"? Or from what year on are they integrated enough that they'd start raping?
Wrong thread. try here.

Seriously: nobody claims that all muslims are rapists.

Muslim countries have serious problems , resulting (also) in migration to western countries where the immigrants are more likely to be invloved in criminal activities than locals.

Sweden, the self declared "humanitarian super power", is now experiencing the failure of it's immigration policy.
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Re: What's Happening to Sweden?

Sweden will learn their lesson, even if they have to learn it the hard way.

Unfortunately the ones that push the hardest for diversity will be largely unaffected by the consequences of their actions, but that's why we have populism.
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