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Some JWs gave me a flyer yesterday in the lobby.

I should have invited them up to discuss Jesus over some coffee and grappa, and perhaps a three-some (they were two attractive women).

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You need eyeglasses

Are you sure you're talking about JWs ? It can't be two attractive women, usually there's one older lady and a younger one, both dressed like in the...I don't know - maybe in the '90s. This is the way they go around people's homes, sometimes a young man and a young woman, very prudent.
Oh well, I miss them in my neighbourhood. I promised I'd come to a meeting one time just so I can get rid of them... I'd actually invite them inside, for a coffee if I'd have the guarantee they won't bore me to tears...I feel a bit mean even for writing this.
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Old 17.03.2018, 18:25
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I was wearing them at the time.

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It can't be two attractive women, usually there's one older lady and a younger one.
What, so older women can't be attractive?

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I was wearing them at the time.



What, so older women can't be attractive?

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I didn't mean it like that....OK, let's put it this way - didn't get how could you find them attractive...

Oh oh, I get it ; they reminded you of hot chicks from the Midwest... (kidding)

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I'd actually invite them inside, for a coffee if I'd have the guarantee they won't bore me to tears...I feel a bit mean even for writing this.
You're far more tolerant of them than me. I don't like door knockers of any variety, unless they're friends, particularly if armed with vodka...or wine...or cake
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they reminded you of hot chicks from the Midwest...
There is no such thing.

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There is no freedom of speech there.

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You're far more tolerant of them than me. I don't like door knockers of any variety, unless they're friends, particularly if armed with vodka...or wine...or cake
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You're far more tolerant of them than me. I don't like door knockers of any variety, unless they're friends, particularly if armed with vodka...or wine...or cake
Only because they became very familiar. The ones that used to come to our building (quite often), seemed like decent folks and put a lot of effort into...ahem, convincing us (invitations to sermons in a few languages, free bibles etc). I almost feel bad...
One time OH told them we're Catholics and we pay our church taxes and after this we didn't see them for half a year. They came again a few months ago, a different team though...
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Only because they became very familiar. The ones that used to come to our building (quite often), seemed like decent folks and put a lot of effort into...ahem, convincing us (invitations to sermons in a few languages, free bibles etc). I almost feel bad...
I understand. They've only been here once, and I must say, they were a lot nicer to talk to than some of the ones I met in the UK. Just nice, happy people and I didn't feel the need to be rude to get rid of them.
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There is no such thing.

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Only because they became very familiar. The ones that used to come to our building (quite often), seemed like decent folks and put a lot of effort into...ahem, convincing us (invitations to sermons in a few languages, free bibles etc). I almost feel bad...
One time OH told them we're Catholics and we pay our church taxes and after this we didn't see them for half a year. They came again a few months ago, a different team though...
I have known quite a few people who had or have to be on a mission. It is very far from the SLC glitz I saw. It is tough and these kids save cash for it on their own before they go to the bootcamp and then 2 yr mission. Their MO is to integrate as much as possible (3 mo language drill and culture soaking up) and then help as much as possible. They are placed in low income areas in my country, old folks homes etc., where they teach English for free. Never mention their religion through out this. That's work and saved for the 2nd shift when they go tracking door to door, knowing people do not want them. They do not show up expecting handouts, the opposite. They do not want to impose new rules. It is a pretty nightmare test that their organization have set up for them and is hard. I do have respect for this, as for anyone who has to work hard and humbly for their conviction. They give choice to people whether they want to hear them out or not.
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I have known quite a few people who had or have to be on a mission. It is very far from the SLC glitz I saw. It is tough and these kids save cash for it on their own before they go to the bootcamp and then 2 yr mission. Their MO is to integrate as much as possible (3 mo language drill and culture soaking up) and then help as much as possible. They are placed in low income areas in my country, old folks homes etc., where they teach English for free. Never mention their religion through out this. That's work and saved for the 2nd shift when they go tracking door to door, knowing people do not want them. They do not show up expecting handouts, the opposite. They do not want to impose new rules. It is a pretty nightmare test that their organization have set up for them and is hard. I do have respect for this, as for anyone who has to work hard and humbly for their conviction. They give choice to people whether they want to hear them out or not.
Yes, I also grew to have some respect for them, that's why I'm not tempted to cut them short....back home, the first foreign JW I met was an American young male, who was trying to engage the teenagers from my high school in a conversation. We were a bit arrogant with him, I remember - we gave him some perorations about St.Andrew ( I'm embarrassed of our "teenager-y" arrogance now ) and were sure he'd give up and let us be, but the discussion turned out to be fun and engaging. Nobody left with hard feelings or anything. Later on, I noticed that already local JWs were doing this job, although they were not as persuasive or eloquent as my first encounter hehe...here, in CH, there are also local - by which I mean Swiss-Swiss JWs, sort of nice if you ask me. I don't mind them, as you say, it's rather humbling to see how much and how humbly they work for their conviction.
My guess was that they pick up the foreign names - and ours sounds Polish (it is not).
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Yes, I also grew to have some respect for them, that's why I'm not tempted to cut them short....back home, the first foreign JW I met was an American young male, who was trying to engage the teenagers from my high school in a conversation. We were a bit arrogant with him, I remember - we gave him some perorations about St.Andrew ( I'm embarrassed of our "teenager-y" arrogance now ) and were sure he'd give up and let us be, but the discussion turned out to be fun and engaging. Nobody left with hard feelings or anything. Later on, I noticed that already local JWs were doing this job, although they were not as persuasive or eloquent as my first encounter hehe...here, in CH, there are also local - by which I mean Swiss-Swiss JWs, sort of nice if you ask me. I don't mind them, as you say, it's rather humbling to see how much and how humbly they work for their conviction.
My guess was that they pick up the foreign names - and ours sounds Polish (it is not).
I cannot speak for the JW, know only one and she is a delightful person. I do know quite a few LDS folks, par hasard, really. I do not think our spiritual beliefs define us, personality wise, but the amount of selfless work put in it actually might.

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I do know quite a few LDS folks, par hasard, really. I do not think our spiritual beliefs define us, personality wise, but the amount of selfless work put in it actually might.
I'm an absolute atheist, so whilst I respect other people's desire to have a faith, I just don't like anyone coming to my home and trying to convert me. That's my personal boundary, and I feel exactly the same about anyone selling a product door to door. If I want something, I'll go out and get it for myself. Totally agree with you in that I don't think our spiritual beliefs (or lack of them) defines us. People are people.

I've know an awful lot of LDS people over the years because the part of the World I come from is seen as place of pilgrimage for many of them. Pendle Hill, where Joseph Smith had his vision which led him to begin this faith, is less than 40 miles from my home town. There's been an LDS church less than a mile from my home for over 50yrs, and one of the biggest LDS temples outside of the US is 10 miles away. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7227889.stm

A little peculiarity about Pendle Hill... Long before Joseph Smith had his vision, Pendle Hill became prominent in a series of witchcraft trials. To this day, if you ask someone from this part of the UK about that location, they'll most likely associate it with The Pendle Witches.
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Re: What's Happening to Sweden?

Back to Sweden and in particular migrant rape :


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... and in particular migrant rape
This is becoming an obsession with a few people. I find that almost as disturbing as the actual crime.
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This is becoming an obsession with a few people. I find that almost as disturbing as the actual crime.
You find someone pointing out the problems arising from immigration almost as disturbing as women being raped?
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Just became interested in this thread - is there a summary, otherwise will read all pages
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Old 18.03.2018, 19:27
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You find someone pointing out the problems arising from immigration almost as disturbing as women being raped?
No the problem is the sensationalism and prurience displayed.
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No the problem is the sensationalism and prurience displayed.
What you're describing is a reaction to the problem.
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