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But I think it's more than that. Maybe people are fed up with this dynastic democracy. And with many policies. The Democrats have forced some things onto population and this is not how things function in real life. Truth, meritocracy - these are principles that should not be flexible or negotiable. Maybe it was a lesson that an angry and deceived electorate should give all politicians from time to time....a wake up call if you wish.
Personally, I am fed up with dynastic democracy. It's not isolated to the US, but it's a distinct peculiarity of US politics in West.
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Why not? The Americans lecture anyone whom they see fit for a lecture....I think we're equally "entitled", I'm all for serving their own medicine to people, in principle.
Do they? They don't. Esp Trump makes it a point to focus on US problems and not meddle with others. They have not forced V4 into anything for a good while and I respect it. Whereas the EU keeps patronizingly bossing and threatening. If you feel entitled to comment on Trump's personal life, nobody can stop you...but why get sidetracked by unimportant stuff. He makes it too easy to comment on his personsl life, mind you. Be his guest, get happily sidetracked.

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Personal lives of Merkel and Macron have nothing to do duplicity and ambivalency nor Russian ties, read what I reacted to, gm. People in Europe do not care who VIPs hang out with in their private life and I like it that way. I don't think Clinton would care what I think about Lewinski and his taste.

Looks like the access of social media and ease one can comment makes everybody feel like the politicians are waiting for everybody's expertise. FB "helped" this but they seem to be punished lately....for their "help". Selling people's data in exchange for making users feel like stars and experts for a min. Right.
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Do they? They don't.
Really? I take it you’re not involved in the banking sector, then?
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Re: What's Happening to Sweden?

Would anyone think the EE was affected more by yanks than a half century of our Big Brother's guardianship? Or the magnificent help of the egalitarian EU?

V4 is a small fish for US. But big enough to be bullied by the EU or tovarisches.

These questions are more interesting than personal lives of Trump, Macron or Merkel.
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Personally, I am fed up with dynastic democracy. It's not isolated to the US, but it's a distinct peculiarity of US politics in West.
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Yeah.......nothing to add here, everything is crystal clear. I'm totally on the same page on this one. Though, if we would really pay attention to these things, we'd be really disappointed to see this phenomenon replicated at a smaller and much more discrete scale pretty much everywhere in Europe. It's just not that obvious or that huge as it is across the pond.

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Personal lives of Merkel and Macron have nothing to do duplicity and ambivalency nor Russian ties, read what a reacted to, gm. People in Europe do not care who VIPs hang out with in their private life and I like it that way. I don't think Clinton would care what I think about Lewinski and his taste.

Looks like the access of social media and ease one can comment makes everybody feel like the politicians are waiting for everybody's expertise. FB "helped" this but they seem to be punished lately....for their "help". Selling people's data in exchange for making users feel like stars and experts for a min. Right.
Well, I didn't mean personal as in family, love affairs - relations, to be honest. It never occurred to me Merkel might actually be married or to check out who she is married to..lol. I just don't see her that way. On the other hand, there must be some interest in VIPs' lives if a whole plethora of tabloids and what not's media channels are periodically giving us some insight into the lives of Carla Bruni, or Brigitte Macron's likes... It's not interesting for everybody, I agree, but that's a different thing. I think the Americans take these things exactly as seriously as we take them...meaning - entertainment. Christian evangelicals not caring about divorces proves I might have a point here.
Tbh, I'm personally more interested in things like e.g. relations Sarkozy had with Libyan dictators, these are the things that have some "explosive" potential. And these people don't account for a lot of mistakes that will directly affect all of us, as we could see in the past 3 years. I'm interested because I come from a country that just takes orders from a lot of bullies and on a lot of issues, without any gain and disregarding its own interests, with the risk of being sold short to the ruskies or whom not these days, and I happen to really love that beautiful place and its cool, disturbingly underrated people...well, minus almost all politicians :-)...how unfashionable and uncool of me.
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V4 is a small fish for US. But big enough to be bullied by the EU or tovarisches.
If that's how you feel, then perhaps the V4 should take a leaf out of Dalia Grybauskaite's book. I don't see anyone attempting to bully her as she strides around the EU Parliament. She strikes me as quite an indomitable figure.
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... and I happen to really love that beautiful place and its cool, disturbingly underrated people...well, minus almost all politicians :-)...how unfashionable and uncool of me.
How very human of you
As I've said before, I don't know any Romanians, but the Bulgarians I know are very sentimental about, and proud of their homeland and particularly, their home towns. I'd never heard of Ruse before last summer, but now I want to visit it. I'd love to visit Romania, but there are few places on this planet that I'm not curious about. Croatia has had a few good years of tourism, and now Montenegro is getting the attention, but Romania is hotly tipped to be a top tourist destinations of the next few years. I don't expect my hometown to ever receive such attention, but I'm still proud of it.
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Yeah.......nothing to add here, everything is crystal clear. I'm totally on the same page on this one. Though, if we would really pay attention to these things, we'd be really disappointed to see this phenomenon replicated at a smaller and much more discrete scale pretty much everywhere in Europe. It's just not that obvious or that huge as it is across the pond.



Well, I didn't mean personal as in family, love affairs - relations, to be honest. It never occurred to me Merkel might actually be married or to check out who she is married to..lol. I just don't see her that way. On the other hand, there must be some interest in VIPs' lives if a whole plethora of tabloids and what not's media channels are periodically giving us some insight into the lives of Carla Bruni, or Brigitte Macron's likes... It's not interesting for everybody, I agree, but that's a different thing. I think the Americans take these things exactly as seriously as we take them...meaning - entertainment. Christian evangelicals not caring about divorces proves I might have a point here.
Tbh, I'm personally more interested in things like e.g. relations Sarkozy had with Libyan dictators, these are the things that have some "explosive" potential. And these people don't account for a lot of mistakes that will directly affect all of us, as we could see in the past 3 years. I'm interested because I come from a country that just takes orders from a lot of bullies and on a lot of issues, without any gain and disregarding its own interests, with the risk of being sold short to the ruskies or whom not these days, and I happen to really love that beautiful place and its cool, disturbingly underrated people...well, minus almost all politicians :-)...how unfashionable and uncool of me.
Yup, I was commenting on the interest the public shows in personal affairs of polititians (since that were the posts about) instead of admiting that this lighthearted and completely irrelevant entertainment sidetracks.

The relationships of VIP polititians have with dictators are indeed worthy of inspection, lol, Sarkozy probably sleeps poorly these days.

As per EE not being rated high, it will change. But slowly and not when V4 and the rest act like EU's or batiushka's pawns. I don't really think that the EE cares anymore for being highly rated by the West, investors don't care about it, either. Esp Chinese since those are now no. 1, it looks like and not only for EE. But I do think Sweden cares for an idealistic socialist image it promoted and is being bitten by it you know where. Tak for reading

PS - it is good to be unfashionable. Healthy for the character. Just don't start putting an orange selftanner on, you might face some reactions.
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Personally, I am fed up with dynastic democracy. It's not isolated to the US, but it's a distinct peculiarity of US politics in West.
( http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ge..._United_States )
In every business you have relatives that continue from one generation to the next. Butchers, bakers, bankers, etc. Politics happens to run in families too, and ultimately it's the voters of a district that decide whom they want as a representative. There's no magic that says they have to vote for the 6th cousin once removed of a particular president, or even that they will.

There is a bit of modern fatigue with certain family names at the presidential level. I think the voters don't want another Bush or Clinton.

I refer again to my post on the Trump thread about dynastic seats in the U.S. House, and how this is what some voters want.

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...Voters across the U.S. tend to think their representative is the good guy/gal, and it's the other voters in the other states that should vote out incumbents.

Take for example the "Dingell" seat from Michigan in the House of Representatives. The seat has been held by a member of the same family for 84 years. John Dingell, Sr served from 1933-1955. His son won a special election to succeed him. John Dingell, Jr served from 1955-2015 and retired as the longest-serving member of Congress in history. His wife, Debbie Dingell, won a special election to replace him and has been serving since 2015. The voters of Michigan seem to really like this family...
If you prefer another country, how about the Le Pen family in France? Surely there are some Swedish families that have been in politics for generations?
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Yeah.......nothing to add here, everything is crystal clear. I'm totally on the same page on this one. Though, if we would really pay attention to these things, we'd be really disappointed to see this phenomenon replicated at a smaller and much more discrete scale pretty much everywhere in Europe. It's just not that obvious or that huge as it is across the pond.

Well, I didn't mean personal as in family, love affairs - relations, to be honest. It never occurred to me Merkel might actually be married or to check out who she is married to..lol. I just don't see her that way. On the other hand, there must be some interest in VIPs' lives if a whole plethora of tabloids and what not's media channels are periodically giving us some insight into the lives of Carla Bruni, or Brigitte Macron's likes... It's not interesting for everybody, I agree, but that's a different thing. I think the Americans take these things exactly as seriously as we take them...meaning - entertainment. Christian evangelicals not caring about divorces proves I might have a point here.
Tbh, I'm personally more interested in things like e.g. relations Sarkozy had with Libyan dictators, these are the things that have some "explosive" potential. And these people don't account for a lot of mistakes that will directly affect all of us, as we could see in the past 3 years. I'm interested because I come from a country that just takes orders from a lot of bullies and on a lot of issues, without any gain and disregarding its own interests, with the risk of being sold short to the ruskies or whom not these days, and I happen to really love that beautiful place and its cool, disturbingly underrated people...well, minus almost all politicians :-)...how unfashionable and uncool of me.
Long but nevertheless interesting article about changing views of US Christian evangelicals especially about abortion which they used to support in some ways.

Source (might be behind a firewall)

Article here about divorce rates for US Christian evangelicals.
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Record numbers of drug smugglers in 2017 and start of 18...

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Not much of a surprise - 72% of gang members in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants
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Personally, I am fed up with dynastic democracy.
Says the person who comes from a monarchistic democracy.

Switzerland also has it's share of political familes, at least four pairs of Swiss presidents were closely related.

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Says the person who comes from a monarchistic democracy.
Precisely. You get rid of a monarchy and too many countries almost replicate it with their political leaders. Ironic...and I'm not even a royalist.
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58 arrested, it is a global meltdown
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Precisely. You get rid of a monarchy and too many countries almost replicate it with their political leaders. Ironic...and I'm not even a royalist.
To be on topic Sweden has a constitutional monarchy, which means that the monarch's duties are regulated by the constitution.

According to the Swedish constitution, the King as Head of State is the country's foremost representative and symbol. The King's duties are primarily ceremonial and representative.
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Says the person who comes from a monarchistic democracy.

Switzerland also has it's share of political familes, at least four pairs of Swiss presidents were closely related.

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Who, other than the Schlumpfs? In relatively recent times, say after WW2.
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Since it appears to be written in Swedish language, I don't think they have to worry much that any migrants will be able to actually read it

...BTW, what is Sweden's stance on polygamy? What if a Muslim migrant is given asylum, can he bring over all 10 of his wives and 30 children? Or does he have to pick his favorite one? In which case I'm sure someone will be quick to say that is a "human rights violation".
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