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Old 04.02.2018, 15:57
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Child Marriage

Today in the 'NZZ am Sonntag' I read an article about child marriage in the USA. I didn't know that in many States they have no legal minimum age of marriage.

http://www.unchainedatlast.org

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/o...in-the-us.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of..._United_States

Does that surprise you too?
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Old 04.02.2018, 16:05
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Nope!
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Last year Chris Christie refused to sign a law into effectiveness that would have banned child marriage. Signing would have made NJ the first(!!!) state that outlaws child marriage altogether.

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Because the law would interfere with religious customs.
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Last year Chris Christie refused to sign a law into effectiveness that would have banned child marriage. Signing would have made NJ the first(!!!) state that outlaws child marriage altogether.

His reason:
Because the law would interfere with religious customs.
Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?
In the article from the NZZ it says:
Der republikanische Gouverneur befand sich damals im Vorwahlkampf der Präsidentschaftswahlen 2016. Reiss steigt heute noch die Zornesröte ins Gesicht, wenn sie sich an jenen Schicksalstag erinnert. «Wissen Sie, was er gemacht hat mit dem Gesetzesentwurf?», fragt Reiss rhetorisch. «Das hier!» Sie fährt mit einem Kugelschreiber so heftig über die Notizblätter vor ihr, dass das Papier reisst. Christie hatte mit einer einzigen Unterschrift die monatelange Arbeit nichtig gemacht. Er belegte die Vorlage mit einem Veto.

Die genauen Gründe wurden nie bekannt. Lediglich einmal sagte Christie am Rande einer Wahlkampfveranstaltung, dass ein Mindestalter den Traditionen von «gewissen Gemeinden» widerspräche. Für Reiss und ihre Mitstreiterinnen ist mit der Wahl von Donald Trump ein neues Zeitalter angebrochen: Vermeintlich aufklärerische Werte wie Kindesschutz und Gleichberechtigung der Geschlechter sind infrage gestellt.

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Old 05.02.2018, 17:22
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Given that I see the majority of Americans as being White religious conservatives this does not surprise me at all.
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Old 05.02.2018, 17:26
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Mods: Why does this site generate active Links with the word 'Reiss' im my post?? Can you do something about it pls.
See this thread for a rough overview:
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Mods: Why does this site generate active Links with the word 'Reiss' im my post?? Can you do something about it pls.
I think it's your browser. I don't see any links in your post
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I think it's your browser. I don't see any links in your post
I do, and the same one as him.

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I do, and the same one as him.

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Him? Who?
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Him / Her

/care on fora.
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/care on fora.
Ya ya, it's ok
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Re: Child Marriage

This topic seems to be doing the rounds. I first read it in the Independent in July -

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7830266.html

Then on the BBC in October -

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-...y-child-brides
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Re: Child Marriage

Heck no!!!!!

Coming from the most hypocritical country I know....

You know, the one who preaches....

--against human rights and labour abuses yet has not signed up or lived up to any of the international agreements itself
--creates ex-territorial laws against banking secrecy yet is ranked 2 in banking secrecy and allows own banks to do worse than its ex territorial laws
--against citizen based taxation in the UN but does the opposite to own citizens abroad

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Definition of a DC virgin? A 14 year old girl who can run faster than the president.
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Old 05.02.2018, 19:57
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Given that I see the majority of Americans as being White religious conservatives this does not surprise me at all.
I'm waiting for one of the white religious conservatives on this forum (you know who you are, and I know too) to defend all this.

After all they're extremely outspoken on every other American-centric thread, especially the Trump one.
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Re: Child Marriage

Interesting coincidence. Just watched Coal Miner's Daughter about Loretta Lynn. She was a child bride, 14 or 15 max. Was a grandmother by the time she was in her mid-30s!

Great movie and great musician, but that part of it makes for some pretty uncomfortable viewing (likely the intention of the filmmaker).
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Well according to this website the US is pretty low down the list of concern. In much of Europe you just have to make in and the State will support your many wives of all ages. Happy days!
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Given that I see the majority of Americans as being White religious conservatives this does not surprise me at all.
That's really a very ignorant statement. Although Americans who support child marriage may be white, conservative and Christian, most white, conservative and Christian people in the US do not support child marriage. Feel free to google 'logical fallacies' and 'sweeping generalisations'. Also, what is your basis for your sweeping statement that the majority of Americans are 'white religious conservatives'? Or is this just another case of regurgitating accepted 'truths' without actually bothering to verify?
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That's really a very ignorant statement. Although Americans who support child marriage may be white, conservative and Christian, most white, conservative and Christian people in the US do not support child marriage. Feel free to google 'logical fallacies' and 'sweeping generalisations'. Also, what is your basis for your sweeping statement that the majority of Americans are 'white religious conservatives'? Or is this just another case of regurgitating accepted 'truths' without actually bothering to verify?
I'd also like to see some statistics about the actual religion and ethnicity of these child marriages. I'm pretty certain that white Christian conservatives wouldn't make up the greatest proportion of them.
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I'd also like to see some statistics about the actual religion and ethnicity of these child marriages. I'm pretty certain that white Christian conservatives wouldn't make up the greatest proportion of them.
I'l like to know why the respective states don't ban it. Perhaps someone can explain why they feel this needs to remain legal?
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