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Old 16.01.2019, 12:56
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

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The voting results came after the Zug meeting had taken place. OH says the meeting proceeded in an orderly manner. Seems UK and Switzerland will continue enjoying good ties and nothing major will change when it comes to British expats in Switzerland.
I think that may be wishful thinking. At a minimum expats will cease being EU nationals and will become 3rd country nationals (just like the Canadians, Australians, Kenyans and Argentinians). For those already resident not a dramatic change but for newcomers a big difference.
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Old 16.01.2019, 13:51
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I think that may be wishful thinking. At a minimum expats will cease being EU nationals and will become 3rd country nationals (just like the Canadians, Australians, Kenyans and Argentinians). For those already resident not a dramatic change but for newcomers a big difference.
Ah well, then not much will change, except for more threads about permits from 'third-world' country Brits...
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Old 16.01.2019, 18:14
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

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For those already resident not a dramatic change but for newcomers a big difference.

Yes, sure, but the roadshows are about what happens for those already resident.


As the Vaduz event for which I'm booked is over a month away and in view of the pace at which events are happening, if anyone is going to Zurich tomorrow night, it would be good if someone could ask about the 15-year rule. This time last year Jane Owen assured us it was something of a priority to get legislation through to scrap it but as usual, there's been total silence since. After all, who knows, there may be a GE or 2nd ref coming up
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Old 16.01.2019, 18:23
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I would LOVE it if the EU were to jettison English as an official language after Brexit. Could there be a more succinct example of how ludicrous the EU is?

"90% of our politicians and civil servants converse with each other in English but out of principle and due to our treaties English is no longer an official EU language"

Even the EU can't be that dumb though.
English is an official language of Ireland.
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Old 17.01.2019, 00:07
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English is an official language of Ireland.
Yes but it does not have the same status as Irish.... for instance in legal matters the Irish text takes precedence. Also court hearing etc must be held in Irish if one of the parties request it.

Ireland's diplomatic language has always been French and generally speaking it is uncommon to get to be PM, Foreign Minister, Finance Minister or Minister for EU affairs unless you have a good command of French.

I would expect that after BREXIT the concept of having to have a member state sponsor a language will be changed.
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The voting results came after the Zug meeting had taken place. OH says the meeting proceeded in an orderly manner. Seems UK and Switzerland will continue enjoying good ties and nothing major will change when it comes to British expats in Switzerland.
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I think that may be wishful thinking. At a minimum expats will cease being EU nationals and will become 3rd country nationals (just like the Canadians, Australians, Kenyans and Argentinians). For those already resident not a dramatic change but for newcomers a big difference.
Or maybe somewhere in between like nationals of non-EU Norway and Iceland.
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Or maybe somewhere in between like nationals of non-EU Norway and Iceland.
Doubtful as Norway/Iceland have freedom of movement with Switzerland. The UK won’t.
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Doubtful as Norway/Iceland have freedom of movement with Switzerland. The UK won’t.
Shame. I don't know why the UK doesn't sign up for the more 'select' club and have not only freedom of movement for citizens with CH, FL, Norway and Iceland but also a customs union. It would make things a lot simpler.
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

This is becoming a Brexit thread.
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This is becoming a Brexit thread.
Evidently one is not enough.
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Evidently one is not enough.
One is too many.
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

One of the major changes that I picked up on from last night's Zurich Roadshow, was the new minimum language tests / requirements for the renewal of B Permits. Personally, I'm ok having acquired the levels required and also not facing renewal for a number of years, but for anyone looking to renew this year, it could be a bit of a wake up call.
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Old 19.01.2019, 11:25
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

Is that a national requirement now? I thought it was cantonal - Graubünden certainly had no language requirement for C permits as of 2017, but that could also be because it's trilingual
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One of the major changes that I picked up on from last night's Zurich Roadshow, was the new minimum language tests / requirements for the renewal of B Permits. Personally, I'm ok having acquired the levels required and also not facing renewal for a number of years, but for anyone looking to renew this year, it could be a bit of a wake up call.
But that is not as a result of Brexit, that is the new federal rules that came into force on January 1st this year.
At the Bern event they said that although the new ruling came into force on January 1st there would be a certain amount of leeway given in the beginning in order for people to actually be able to obtain the required certificates and that it would probably be 2020 before it was rigorously enforced.

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Is that a national requirement now? I thought it was cantonal - Graubünden certainly had no language requirement for C permits as of 2017, but that could also be because it's trilingual
Yes.
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Ah well, then not much will change, except for more threads about permits from 'third-world' country Brits...
Except for the fact they will no longer preferential access.
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