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Old 14.03.2018, 19:44
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NO -simple. Not if they have no UK pension or UK income.

BTW is is 300 + 10% up to 700 - so this knee replacement will cost me 1000 (but then nor more costs if anything else happens during 2018).
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Old 14.03.2018, 21:20
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NO -simple. Not if they have no UK pension or UK income.

BTW is is 300 + 10% up to 700 - so this knee replacement will cost me 1000 (but then nor more costs if anything else happens during 2018).

UK OAP's living in CH get free Swiss health insurance paid for by the U.K.

Swiss OAP's living in the UK have to pay for Swiss health insurance as they don't qualify for NHS treatment once in receipt of a Swiss pension.

It's not reciprocal in any way, Swiss pensioners always pay by law & U.K. pensioners never pay by law.
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Old 14.03.2018, 21:24
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I know we are few - but was reciprocal health care for UK OAPs here without any Swiss pension or income, discussed?
No, but there was a similar question on they sheets that people could complete and hand back to the Embassy staff. I've got a spare, so will scan it for you tomorrow, then you can see for yourself. Also, you can email the Embassy to ask the question yourself. Apparently, anything they don't have the answer to hand for is being fed back to London.
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Very kind Blueangel, thanks.

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Old 14.03.2018, 22:37
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

Regarding the roadshow event I found their lack of understanding of the Swiss residency permits when asked a little odd and concerning. They appeared not to know much about them including that the rules depend on what nationality (EU desirable, EU non-desirable, other) you are. So whilst the rules are Swiss (i.e. not a European Union issue) they are not outside the influence of Brexit.

Also, what was the point of the 3 stooges sat on the stage ? OK, at one point the bloke grabbed a mike to repeat what the lady from London just said, but the other two ?

I was not left with a great impression of the Ambassador and her team.

Oh, and the crazy lady with the party political broadcast....come on, fess up.
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Old 15.03.2018, 09:52
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

For Odile and any British Citizen who has been unable to attend one of the Roadshow's so far... Please be aware that the Embassy do plan to have another round of Roadshows later in the year.
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Old 15.03.2018, 09:56
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Also, what was the point of the 3 stooges sat on the stage ? OK, at one point the bloke grabbed a mike to repeat what the lady from London just said, but the other two ?
Well it's keeping her team in the loop having them present, and they were available for questions after the main event.
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Regarding the roadshow event I found their lack of understanding of the Swiss residency permits when asked a little odd and concerning. They appeared not to know much about them including that the rules depend on what nationality (EU desirable, EU non-desirable, other) you are. So whilst the rules are Swiss (i.e. not a European Union issue) they are not outside the influence of Brexit.

Also, what was the point of the 3 stooges sat on the stage ? OK, at one point the bloke grabbed a mike to repeat what the lady from London just said, but the other two ?

I was not left with a great impression of the Ambassador and her team.
I think you are being overly cynical here. They did not give a bad impression and I think between the ambassador and the Skype link they answered the majority of what they were asked. The other guys on the stage were clearly there to support and take notes and record important points to take back with them.

Were you by any chance the miserable so and so who complained about the lady on Skype not being physically present?
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Old 15.03.2018, 11:38
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

Sounds like the Basel roadshow was a more friendly and intimate affair
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Sounds like the Basel roadshow was a more friendly and intimate affair
If you mean were there less people attending the Basel roadshow in a city with a much lower population of expats than Zürich then yes Castro, you are absolutely correct, it was more friendly and intimate.
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Old 15.03.2018, 13:24
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

I have been contacted by a journalist working for CBC radio who is looking to interview British expats in Switzerland and get their thoughts on Brexit and Switzerland's relationship with the EU.
She will be in Zurich/Luzern from the 23-25th of March and the interview will take no more than 30 minutes.
As I live in Neuchâtel I won't be able to take part but I can pass on her details to anybody who might be interested.
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Old 15.03.2018, 13:53
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

Has she offered to submit a list of questions beforehand?
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Old 15.03.2018, 14:32
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Has she offered to submit a list of questions beforehand?
Yes.
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Old 15.03.2018, 14:36
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Are you serious... wat questions did you expect? The whole point of the roadshow was about how Brexit directly affects British expats in Switzerland, not a discourse on how it will affect the UK economy and the 'farming and fishing policies'. Christ.
Christ, you think that every Brit there is only concerned about the implications of Brexit on their personal situation in Switzerland, by golly you are daft!
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Old 15.03.2018, 15:45
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Re: Brexit (and other UK stuff) information roadshow in Swizterland

I wish i could remember the wording of the guy at the back who was talking about moving to Spain, and saying his grandchildren all have different nationalities.
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Old 15.03.2018, 16:09
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Christ, you think that every Brit there is only concerned about the implications of Brexit on their personal situation in Switzerland, by golly you are daft!
Yes, how Brexit will affect the lives of expats living in Switzerland was clearly the most important topic to British expats living in Switzerland, and the general point of the roadshow, hence why all of the questions revolved around this.

It's not rocket science, Tobias.
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Old 15.03.2018, 18:01
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Yes, how Brexit will affect the lives of expats living in Switzerland was clearly the most important topic to British expats living in Switzerland, and the general point of the roadshow, hence why all of the questions revolved around this.

It's not rocket science, Tobias.
I can't speak for anyone else at the British Nationals Roadshow, but I hazard a guess that many people are more concerned about all of the economic and political fall out of Britain leaving the EU then just about how this will affect their C permit application in Switzerland. People were concerned about how overseas voting regulations meant they didn't get a chance to vote. People are worried about how this will affect property ownership in EU countries and the ability to resettle in other EU countries after 2020 or if they held pensions in other EU states. Not just whether they can go from the UK to Switzerland and back unhindered. Which won't be affected anyway, unless the EU insists that Switzerland also renegotiates with the UK and unlike the factoid we were given, Britain is not the 4th largest import and export partner for Switzerland, we sit way down in 8th place behind Germany and France and the US.

I take it you enjoyed the reassurances offered by our consulate, I however found that no questions were actually answered in any satisfactory way. Felt to me like it was all down to the negotiations that haven't yet been agreed upon and about towing the Home Office line on a keep calm and carry on sort of way .
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I however found that no questions were actually answered in any satisfactory way. Felt to me like it was all down to the negotiations that haven't yet been agreed upon and about towing the Home Office line on a keep calm and carry on sort of way .
Nothing escapes you, does it Tobias?
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Old 15.03.2018, 18:14
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Nothing escapes you, does it Tobias?
Why have the roadshows in the weeks preceding a time when they will be able to enlighten us? Where was the initial consultation roadshows when they could compile a decent list of the issues that genuinely affect us and go into discussions well briefed? As was said further up the thread, it shouldn't be up to us to educate them on residency permits and Swiss recruitment criteria of foreign nationals. They should know this better than the back of their hands.
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Old 15.03.2018, 18:38
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Why have the roadshows in the weeks preceding a time when they will be able to enlighten us? Where was the initial consultation roadshows when they could compile a decent list of the issues that genuinely affect us and go into discussions well briefed? As was said further up the thread, it shouldn't be up to us to educate them on residency permits and Swiss recruitment criteria of foreign nationals. They should know this better than the back of their hands.
You expect more from government employees?
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