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Old 16.03.2018, 13:06
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:12
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So what? None of them has ever seen Skripals daughter.
None has been interviewed by media.
Nobody denied that she is in the hospital, but nobody confirmed either.


Exactly.
Do you have many examples when a poisoning case has been classified?


Why we don't see a proof? Nothing but claims and stories from one side only.
No 3rd-party information.
That's what looks *really* suspicious.

again WOW

no one has confirmed they are in the hospital?? apart from the police, the hospital, the f****g prime minister, you mean apart from all of them?

there has never been a confirmed case of nerve agents being used in the uk before - do you really not get that? its no longer a police matter, it gone a bit higher then that.

what proof do you require? pictures of 2 people in NHS beds asleep connected to loads of machines prove nothing, blood samples? what would that prove?? there is no proof the russian gov would accept, if they where given a sample of the agent all they would say is it was made in the uk (or some other country) etc etc

sorry but you're coming across as a bit of a tin foil hat nutter.
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:19
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So what? None of them has ever seen Skripals daughter.
None has been interviewed by media.
Nobody denied that she is in the hospital, but nobody confirmed either.


Exactly.
Do you have many examples when a poisoning case has been classified?


Why we don't see a proof? Nothing but claims and stories from one side only.
No 3rd-party information.
That's what looks *really* suspicious.
Why would they let the suspects of the assasination see the victims? Sorry, but that would be a bit strange. I assume they will let the investigators have access to copies to most of the reports that are not considred threats to national security. Anyway 25+ Russian diplomats that are considered threats to national security are going to be sent back to the USSR, sorry I mean Putinland, whoops I mean Russia.
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Why would they let the suspects of the assasination see the victims?
Is the Russian Ambassador a suspect now? Gosh, it's all excitement in England these days, isn't it?
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:25
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Is the Russian Ambassador a suspect now? Gosh, it's all excitement in England these days, isn't it?
slip the NHS nurses a couple of boxies of ferrero rocher and they'll let him do anything he wants
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:43
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Why we don't see a proof? Nothing but claims and stories from one side only.
No 3rd-party information.
That's what looks *really* suspicious.
Samples of the nerve agent used have been sent to the OPCW, so independent 3rd party information is the process of being sourced.

https://www.opcw.org/
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:47
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no one has confirmed they are in the hospital?? apart from the police, the hospital, the f****g prime minister, you mean apart from all of them?
UK prime minister. UK police and hospital - only "highly probable".
Has anyone heard anything from police or hospital?
Ah, yes, it's top secret.

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there has never been a confirmed case of nerve agents being used in the uk before - do you really not get that? its no longer a police matter, it gone a bit higher then that.
So what? "Higher" doesn't necessarily mean "more secret".
It's not a matter of national security, as Mr. Johnson tries to present it.

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what proof do you require? pictures of 2 people in NHS beds asleep connected to loads of machines prove nothing, blood samples? what would that prove??
Yes. Pictures, videos, timeline protocols, blood test, clothes and flower samples with tracks of the poison on them - professionals know better how to tell proof from fake.
All this has been denied. Still no clear explanation, why.
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:50
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I must admit to deriving quite a bit of grim amusement out of this whole situation. Here we have two of the nastiest, most ruthless and most dishonest political entities on the planet having a right old ding dong, except that one side is actually quite enjoying it (the Russian Embassy in London is a hotbed of masterful trollery) and the other is, well, who knows what the Brits are up to? I suppose it makes a change from bombing the shit out of Arabs and destabilising random African governments.

Meanwhile, thanks to the two most useless presidents in the history of the Union, the United States and its Nato gang are busy looking the other way (again, I suppose it makes a change from blowing up television studios and wedding parties), leaving the Brits to look a bit foolish while the Russians continue to take the piss out of them.

The Brits are neither as powerful nor as decent as they pretend to be. They still carry a big stick, but several decades of bullying the little boys for their lunch money isn't much preparation for taking on a bear - especially when all your mates are off squabbling over baseball cards.

I'd probably be a bit nervous if I lived so close to Porton Down in Salisbury, but watching from a distance like this - well, it's all a bit ludicrous, isn't it?
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:50
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Samples of the nerve agent used have been sent to the OPCW, so independent 3rd party information is the process of being sourced.

https://www.opcw.org/
Thats'the link to OPCW. I see nothing about Salisbury case there.
Who controlled the way the samples have been taken?
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:53
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So what? "Higher" doesn't necessarily mean "more secret".
It's not a matter of national security, as Mr. Johnson tries to present it.
As it's now being investigated whether the substance was in the daughter's luggage when she flew into the UK from Moscow, you better believe it's a matter of national security If it was in her suitcase, and she'd had reason to open her case at either airport, this could have gone pandemic by now.
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:56
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Thats'the link to OPCW. I see nothing about Salisbury case there.
Who controlled the way the samples have been taken?
Contact the OPCW and ask them if you're so concerned.
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this could have gone pandemic by now.
Are we talking biological warfare now?

Or is this like that infamous nuclear attack on Hawaii?
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Old 16.03.2018, 13:59
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UK prime minister. UK police and hospital - only "highly probable".
Has anyone heard anything from police or hospital?
Ah, yes, it's top secret.


So what? "Higher" doesn't necessarily mean "more secret".
It's not a matter of national security, as Mr. Johnson tries to present it.


Yes. Pictures, videos, timeline protocols, blood test, clothes and flower samples with tracks of the poison on them - professionals know better how to tell proof from fake.
All this has been denied. Still no clear explanation, why.

now you're just trolling, welcome to my ignore list
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now you're just trolling, welcome to my ignore list
You won't know what you're missing.

Hey, do you want me to keep quoting him so you can see what he's saying anyway?
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Old 16.03.2018, 14:00
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Hey, do you want me to keep quoting him so you can see what he's saying anyway?
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Old 16.03.2018, 14:06
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Are we talking biological warfare now?
You're being purile now.
Girl remembers to retrieve her phone charger from her luggage before checking it in. Becomes exposed to nerve agent inside luggage. Boards an international flight. Sits in close proximity to other passengers as the poisoning symptoms develop. Cabin crew assist believing passenger to be ill.

That's what could have happened if the daughter had residue of a fine powder agent on her sleeve as she searched inside her luggage. It's strictly contact to contact contamination scenario, nothing airborne.
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Old 16.03.2018, 14:09
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now you're just trolling, welcome to my ignore list
You need to give him a little credit for getting his name right, at least
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You're being purile now.
Girl remembers to retrieve her phone charger from her luggage before checking it in. Becomes exposed to nerve agent inside luggage. Boards an international flight. Sits in close proximity to other passengers as the poisoning symptoms develop. Cabin crew assist believing passenger to be ill.

That's what could have happened if the daughter had residue of a fine powder agent on her sleeve as she searched inside her luggage. It's strictly contact to contact contamination scenario, nothing airborne.
Hardly "pandemic", though. A chemical agent has no means of replicating itself, of increasing.

Words matter.
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WOW!! they are in a main NHS hospital what could they possibly hide??
I reckon that was Russia's plan all along.

"You don't need to kill him, just get him into hospital and the NHS will do the rest."
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Old 16.03.2018, 14:22
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I reckon that was Russia's plan all along.

"You don't need to kill him, just get him into hospital and the NHS will do the rest."
according to the guy who invented it they're both goners regardless of what the nhs do, which doesn't sound good for the copper who got caught up in it.
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