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Why weird?

People will do anything to avoid being murdered or suffering a fatal accident
It seems a bizarre coincidence that they should both have shown contrition and done so in the same way.

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I'm curious, and too lazy to search for myself.

Do these mysterious deaths of Russian dissidents only happen in the United Kingdom, or have there been other cases elsewhere?
There apparently have been cases elsewhere of high-profile Russians/Russian dissidents dying.

Russian ambassador Mirgayas Shirinskiy is seventh Russian diplomat to die since November
Nine months, nine prominent Russians dead
The long, terrifying history of Russian dissidents being poisoned abroad
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Here is a link to the first of a series of articles on mysterious Russian deaths.
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https://twitter.com/RusEmbUSA/status/978273613349556224
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Wow, from rhetoric into action, May's biggest support ever since becoming PM!
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Putting aside the US expulsions for a moment:

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Let’s Add Up all the Countries So Far (3:46 p.m.)Ukraine: 13
Germany, France, Poland: 4
Lithuania, Czech Republic: 3
Italy, Netherlands, Denmark, : 2
Estonia, Romania, Latvia, Finland: 1
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WARNING: This is a few minutes of reading...!!!!

Good Lord Help Us…..the lunatics are running the asylum! Now let’s see a has-been empire (UK) gets the support of a dying empire (US) who lied about WMDs in order to invade a sovereign country which was planned years ahead. Yes, the US plan was to invade 7 countries (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran, even before invading Afghanistan) so they staged the events of all events (I think you all know which event I’m referring to) in order to create a reason for “invading” the Middle East. Invading the seven countries was confirmed by General Wesley Clarke, who stated that “the invasion wasn't based on links to Al-Qaeda or any other intelligence reports but just because the US has an army that is great at taking over other governments.” He forgot to add "and “leave them destitute.”...sickening! In addition, they want to keep the dollar as the reserve currency, maintain the PetroDollar and it’s too late because the PetroYuan went into effect today. To top-it-off, the US has a president that is despised around the world and considered a buffoon and outright idiot. US recently added millions to their budget for “anti-Russian propaganda.” Yeah, that really makes you look authentic Theresa!

Let’s see Canada...oh yea, Trudeau the prime minister who appears more like a juvenile delinquent. The same Canada who made it illegal to use the wrong gender pronouns? Those who do not go along with the delusional progressive gender hypothesis could be accused of hate crimes, put in jail, charged a fine, and compelled to take tolerance training. You mean that Canada Theresa?….I won’t even go there on the EU...it’s a disorganized anti-European entity that can’t tell their asses from their head. How’s that diversity going for ya’ Merkel. Forget NATO countries (or any other small countries joining in with this charade)...they know the drill…! Do it or else….! Great going Theresa you have some really credible supporters. ….PATHETIC….! The bottom-line is that Russia is dealing with a bunch of loonies who are unfit to govern any country. May-Not looks lost and pale and Boris is an unprofessional clown….ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC….!

You know it’s much like a criminal who says they have witnesses who can prove that they didn’t commit a crime. However, the problem is that all of the witnesses are criminals with a rap-sheet 50 pages long! Not very credible are they?...Theresa...Theresa….Theresa...you’re looking for something to do? How about stopping the grooming gangs raping young girls, kick out the jihadists and protect free speech. Gotta appease those bankers right Theresa?...Look in your own backyard for “crimes on British soil” Theresa and you can start with your London Mayor! “Highly Likely” means NOTHING…! If the police came up to a person and said “we’re going to arrest you because it’s “highly likely” you committed a crime, they wouldn’t stand a chance. Perhaps they could “question” the individual...but without PROOF, they don’t stand a chance in hell. They certainly can’t throw them in jail for 15 years without concrete evidence! As I wrote in a previous post this formula for the nerve agent has been available in a book on Amazon for years. Anyone with a decent laboratory can create it. There is more evidence to prove that Russia “is not” the perpetrator than they are the perpetrator. That’s if anything actually happened at all. I don’t put nothing past these idiots…! A bit of logical, unbiased, objective thinking will make it clear “that things just don’t add up.” In a recent article I read, some good points about the whole fiasco. The questions are centered around “why no journalists are asking questions.” Of course, they’re too afraid as UK has become a tyrannical entity with a populace trained to be robots. The 30 questions are here. Here are 2 of them:

1. The government has claimed that the poison used was “a military grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia”. The phrase “of a type developed by Russia” says nothing whatsoever about whether the substance used in the Salisbury case was produced or manufactured in/by Russia. Can the government confirm that its scientists at Porton Down have established that the substance that poisoned the Skripals and DS Bailey was actually produced or manufactured in Russia?

2. The former ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, has claimed that sources within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) have told him that scientists at Porton Down would not agree to a statement about the place of origin of the substance, because they were not able to establish this. According to Mr Murray, only under much pressure from the Governmen (which I had stated before in a previous post about Theresa's pressuring Porton Down) did they end up agreeing to the compromised wording, “of a type developed by Russia”, which has subsequently been used in all official statements on the matter. Can the FCO, in plain and unambiguous English, categorically refute Mr Murray’s claims that pressure was put on Porton Down scientists to agree to a form of words and that in the end a much-diluted version was agreed?

In another very interesting article here, there is a personal account of the locals in Salisbury:
“It’s been clear for months that the government was using the Brexit shambles to hide the fact that they couldn’t govern the country and tackle its pressing issues – the health crisis, homelessness and lack of social housing, poverty and the awful results of its austerity programme. Now it seems that the government is using Skripal to hide the fact that they can’t govern Brexit either!” Here is an interesting video...this person nails it with x-military speaking and people with very pertinent information!

Look, this is all bullsh*t people. It’s like all Theresa needs is threats, bullying, extortion, vilification, corruptness, lies and support of sycophants, and bingo...it must be true! And that’s it….! No Theresa...you’re weak, a liar, and you and your “partners in crime” are putting us all in danger with your antics. This is no way for a so-called well run, western country to act...under any circumstances! They dispel diplomats...well, Russia can do that too. Russia is the one who has shown diplomacy...of course, they see how western leaders have become laughingstocks as China, Russia, and other countries have created their own monetary system bypassing the western monetary system altogether...so sanctions don’t even work now. The west is dying folks….prosperity is headed east. And western leaders know it but there’s not much they can do about it but create chaos based on lies. It's become the "modus operandi." Totally lawless...! It seems that western governments ambition is to demoralize and scare the populace into a reason for war...for who? But the US, UK, and others will lose this war. Their days of hegemony are over...! The criminal international bankers? War is BIG money and BIG business. This “among other reasons” is causing May-Not and other leaders to put all our lives in danger because they can’t get their sh*t together. They’ve done it before...and anyone who thinks that UK is incapable of such deceit need to look at the direction the country is going in right now!

OK, I’m done for now...GOOD BYE….!
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Having read your post in full on my phone, which is far easier than reading your diatribe 'in the flesh', I found that this little ditty popped into my head. Sleep tight and don't let the Maybots bite p.s. Beware of the chemtrails too.

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A few minutes of my life I will never get back.

So in your opinion its all the Axis of Evil, Murica and Britain and NATO, and Russia never did anything wrong. Great, you got it off your chest now, bye bye.
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See what I mean? At least as Phos he keeps it pithy.
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The below article (that I paraphrased a bit) is an excellent synopsis of the conditions we currently face, why we face them, and why we should be "more than concerned." (If you can't take TRUTH then don't read it...I'm not "watering down" anything to pacify anyone....!

"Think about the alleged poisoning of Skirpal by Russia. What can this be other than an orchestrated effort to demonize the president of Russia? How can the West be so outraged over the death of a former double-agent, that is, a deceptive person, and completely indifferent to the millions of peoples destroyed by the West in the 21st century alone? Where is the outrage among Western peoples over the massive deaths for which the West, acting via a 3rd party, is responsible in Yemen? Where is the Western outrage among Western peoples over the deaths in Syria? The deaths in Libya, in Somalia, Pakistan, Ukraine, Afghanistan? Where is the outrage in the West over the constant Western interference in the internal affairs of other countries? Never mind the looting of these countries and child trafficking. Russia helped out Syria (by invitation of the Syrian government unlike the US who invaded the country) and did what the US "claimed" to be doing for years within a matter of months. Of course, the plan was to completely destroy Syria and overthrow ASSAD...a plan that failed due to Russia's help.

The Western politicians and presstitutes (a name for the press in the western media) are morally outraged over an alleged poisoning, unsupported by any evidence, of a former spy of no consequence on orders supposedly given by the president of Russia himself. These kind of insane insults thrown at the leader of the world’s most powerful military nation raise the chances of nuclear Armageddon beyond the risks during the 20th century’s Cold War. The insane fools making these unsupported accusations SHOW TOTAL DISREGARD FOR ALL LIFE ON EARTH. Yet they regard themselves as the salt of the earth and as “exceptional, indispensable” people.

The quality of people in Western governments has collapsed to the very bottom of the barrel. The British actually have a person, Boris “The Clown” Johnson, as Foreign Secretary, who is so low-down that a former British ambassador has no compunction in calling him a categorical liar. The British lab Porton Down, contrary to Johnson’s claim, HAS NOT identified the agent associated with the attack on Skirpal as a Russian novichok agent. Note also that if the British lab is able to identify a novichok agent, it also has the capability of producing it, a capability that many countries have as the formulas were published years ago in a book. (As I previously stated)

That the novichok poisoning of Skirpal is an orchestration is obvious. The minute the event occurred the story was ready. With no evidence in hand, the British government and presstitute media were screaming “the Russians did it.” Not content with that, Boris “The Clown” Johnson screamed “Putin did it.” In order to institutionalize fear and hatred of Russia into British consciousness, British school children are being taught that Putin is like Hitler.

Orchestrations this blatant demonstrate that Western governments have no respect for the intelligence of their peoples. That Western governments get away with these fantastic lies indicates that the governments are immune to accountability. Even if accountability were possible, there is no sign that Western peoples are capable of holding their governments accountable. As Washington drives the world to nuclear war, where are the protests? The only protest is brainwashed school children protesting the National Rifle Association (NRA) in America and the Second Amendment. The European Union itself is a conspiracy against democracy.”

WAKE UP PEOPLE….this doesn’t look good for “us” (us meaning the populace you know people like you and me)….our leaders have decided to “throw the baby out with the bath water” and there’s little we can do about it but suffer the consequences...it’s pitiful…! We don't have to be concerned with Russia...what WE AS A PEOPLE have to be concerned with is what our western leaders are doing to destroy western civilization and taking everyone along with it leaving nothing for future generations. Ciao...HAVE A NICE DAY………..!

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Congratulations, I see you are learning how to use "paragraphs".
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You are trying to use binary logic (yes/no) to communicate with a ternary logic (yes/no/higlylikely) machine. No wonder the dialog looks as follows:

- where are the proofs that Russians poisoned Skripals?
- so you are saying Russians never did anything bad?

Don't wake up people who want to sleep.

As per EU/US following UK, there is a very clear rule of a madhouse - who wore the white dressing gown first, is the doctor
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The below article (that I paraphrased a bit) is an excellent synopsis of the conditions we currently face, why we face them, and why we should be "more than concerned." (If you can't take TRUTH then don't read it...I'm not "watering down" anything to pacify anyone....!
It would be far more intellectually honest to provide a link to the article you are refering, along with your comments regarding it, than to have to wade through your interpretation of said article. Perhaps you don't believe in presenting anything intact and from the horse's mouth, and only want us to be subject to your version. Oh the irony...

Australia have now joined in this round of expulsions and we have threats of retaliation from Putin.
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You are trying to use binary logic (yes/no) to communicate with a ternary logic (yes/no/higlylikely) machine. No wonder the dialog looks as follows:

- where are the proofs that Russians poisoned Skripals?
- so you are saying Russians never did anything bad?

Don't wake up people who want to sleep.

As per EU/US following UK, there is a very clear rule of a madhouse - who wore the white dressing gown first, is the doctor
"where are the proofs that Russians poisoned Skripals?" Safely in the hands of the British police.
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There was thread on here somewhere, now where did it go, oh!

Putin or Krembots, do they exist and have they infiltrated EF?
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You are trying to use binary logic (yes/no) to communicate with a ternary logic (yes/no/higlylikely) machine. No wonder the dialog looks as follows:

- where are the proofs that Russians poisoned Skripals?
- so you are saying Russians never did anything bad?

Don't wake up people who want to sleep.

As per EU/US following UK, there is a very clear rule of a madhouse - who wore the white dressing gown first, is the doctor
I wanted to get back to you yesterday but got tied up. Thanks for your post. Yes, these types (those who want to remain asleep) are what the Marxist call "useful idiots." It's pretty much like the events leading up to WWII in Germany. There were those who "saw the signs" and left. Then there were those who "woke-up" too late...and those who never woke-up and well, we know what happened. Unfortunately..."fools outweigh the prudent." Thankfully, there are still countries left with intelligence and common sense.

"Other nations are being more level-headed, refusing to act until the investigation has been completed. On Tuesday, Switzerland noted that it would wait for the results of the investigation before taking any action (and I would expect no less from Switzerland) Its Foreign Ministry said that the country "supports mechanisms and institutions that can independently clarify facts and security evidence."Austria also said it would not be taking any "national measures," while noting its desire to "keep the channels of communication to Russia open."
Cyprus also declined to expel any Russian diplomats without any further evidence. "Our country is not in a position to take measures against countries that are permanent members of the UN Security Council," government spokesman Prodromos Prodromou told Cyprus News Agency (CNA) on Monday, as quoted by the Independent Balkan News Agency (IBNA).
Other EU nations, including Bulgaria, Cyprus, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Slovakia, and Slovenia, have also declined to join the expulsion frenzy. Scores of non-Western countries (at least 160) refuse to take the UK’s assertion that Russia was behind the incident in Salisbury at face value, demanding it present the evidence.“Even if Mrs. May said that she was absolutely sure that Russia was responsible for the incident in Salisbury, she would have to present all evidence to Russia, the international community and the British public. This is the opinion of almost 160 countries which are not members of the Western bloc,” he said. “It is obvious that no one in the wider world would take British words for granted.”....
Anyway, let's hope that "wiser heads prevail." TAKE CARE....!
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For those still interested (which clearly does not include the UK's supine media), here is one claimed source for the document supposed to have been circulated to gain support from UK/Nato members against Russia.

https://www.kommersant.ru/docs/2018/UK_Briefing.pdf


Slide 4 is interesting and I anticipate that shortly we will be seeing spoofs in the same format maybe entitled "A Long Pattern of UK/US Malign Activity" maybe starting with the compilation of the Iraq "Dodgy Dossier". Somehow, I don't think one slide would be quite enough.
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Quite interesting idea on yesterday's talk show (sorry, no transcript).
Looks like international affairs are not in crisis - they are in transformation.
Classic scheme, ruled by agreements, traditions and common sense, is changing to so-called "religious" scheme, where belief is prevailing over everything else.
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If one sticks to the "middle east" screenplay, next step should be a "gas attack" in Moscow against Navalny and Sobchak. With clowns in white helmets, of course, washing chlorine away with water from a hose.
Or with clowns in chemical protection suites, talking to unprotected policemen right after exiting the hazardous area. Where are the hoses? Something is broken in the screenplay.

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For those still interested (which clearly does not include the UK's supine media), here is one claimed source for the document supposed to have been circulated to gain support from UK/Nato members against Russia.

https://www.kommersant.ru/docs/2018/UK_Briefing.pdf


Slide 4 is interesting and I anticipate that shortly we will be seeing spoofs in the same format maybe entitled "A Long Pattern of UK/US Malign Activity" maybe starting with the compilation of the Iraq "Dodgy Dossier". Somehow, I don't think one slide would be quite enough.
Thanks, slide 4 is indeed quite interesting.

I had forgotten about Montenegro which backfired and pushed them into NATO, details here.

Somehow the quality of the English used in the slides does not ring true, not typical English Civil Servant lingo?
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Somehow the quality of the English used in the slides does not ring true, not typical English Civil Servant lingo?
Of course it could be a forgery. Maybe some other versions come to light. But as far as the English is concerned, you are right that it is certainly not UK official-speak and could have just as easily been put together by, for example, a reporter from the Sun. But then again, the Iraq "Dodgy Dossier" was plagiarised 100% from a non-official source and simply "sexed up" so would presumably also be devoid of UK official-speak, so that in itself can't be an indication of the authenticity of the document. Or can it ?

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I've just noticed the Euro notes on the washing line. It was a Sun reporter who put the document together.
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