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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Looks as if the Labour Party, or at least Jeremy Corbyn and those close to him, are keen to undermine the British government's stance, while the EU is still backing it.

Foreign Office deletes tweet saying Porton Down confirmed Salisbury novichok produced in Russia - Politics live

"Corbyn says Boris Johnson has 'egg on his face' because his Porton Down claims weren't backed up by evidence"
Watch Corbyn's statement here: https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/981509249011302400
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Old 04.04.2018, 15:05
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

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From your post;

This is entirely different from your fallacious claim:


Stick to the published facts please!
Uhm excuse me...but your post has failed...those aren't my claims they are directly from the source. So if you have any problems, take it up with them. If I don't leave a source you have an issue and if I leave a source you have an issue. Luckily, your inability to cognize your surroundings and "fact" from "fiction" has no bearing whatsoever on my livelihood! Stop trying to "cut off my head to make yourself look taller." Funny how your delusion is causing you to look more like an individual who can't accept reality...perhaps some therapy is in order? You've been bamboozled...! The sooner you accept it the better off you will be. Here's a quote from Boris "The Clown" Johnson which was discovered to be a COMPLETE LIE...!

"The revelations of top British military scientists have thrown the social media into an uproar as it became apparent that new statements cast doubt on earlier claims made by Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson regarding the alleged nerve gas attack in Salisbury.

Gary Aitkenhead, chief executive of the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down in England, told Sky News that while the scientists managed to identify the chemical used in the Skripal poisoning case as a "military-grade nerve agent," they were unable to determine its "precise source."

About two weeks earlier, however, British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson insisted during an interview with Deutsche Welle that Porton Down scientists were "absolutely categorical: when they allegedly assured him that "there’s no doubt" that the chemical came from Russia. Many social media users were nonplussed by this development, voicing their concerns via Twitter and calling on Johnson to be held accountable.

I'm not going back-and-forth about this with you...but you need to get your sh*t together. Here's your savior, your hope, the person you believe in. Perhaps the two of you have lots in common:
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

BBC: Labour criticises Boris Johnson's poisoning response

"On Twitter, the Russian Embassy highlighted a now-deleted tweet by the UK Foreign Office which suggested Porton Down had said the nerve agent had been produced in Russia. ...

The Foreign Office said the tweet had been part of a real-time account of a speech by the UK's ambassador in Moscow and was deleted because it "did not accurately report our Ambassador's words".

It added: "None of this changes the fact that it is our assessment that Russia was responsible for this brazen and reckless act and, as the international community agrees, there is no other plausible explanation.

"No other country has a combination of the capability, the intent, and the motive to carry out such an act.""
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Old 04.04.2018, 15:53
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Does anyone care what Diane Abbott thinks and says - apart from Diane Abbott?
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Does anyone care what Diane Abbott thinks and says - apart from Diane Abbott?
The Kremlin? They're probably more satisfied with what Corbyn, Abbott and Co are saying than with the British government's line.
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

It is beginning to look as if the UK appears to be softening its stance with regards to its Skripal propaganda which may well be the start of a gradual climbdown. Effing idiots.
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Labour urges probe over Johnson comments

"Labour has called for an investigation into whether Boris Johnson "misled" the public over Russian involvement in the Salisbury nerve agent attack."

Reasonable criticism from Labour, or are they, in Boris Johnson's words, "playing Russia's game and trying to discredit the UK over Salisbury attack"?
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Old 05.04.2018, 10:31
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Reasonable criticism from Labour, or are they, in Boris Johnson's words, "playing Russia's game and trying to discredit the UK over Salisbury attack"?
They are trying to score points against the current government but considering how many other countries are supporting the UK's stance, they are, again, making themselves look foolish.
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Does anyone care what Diane Abbott thinks and says - apart from Diane Abbott?
Corbyn's ex wife?
Corbyn is an effing idiot of note. who else would sack the shadow secretary for Northern Ireland for having concerns about how brexit will affect the border.

Why can't these numpties get it through their thick skulls that there is serious intelligence behind this investigation, which likely means info from active agents. They think that because you can google almost everything under the sun, that they have a right to know all the facts at any given time, and they don't, particularly when it could compromise the the identity of agents. Idiots!
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Let's look at the facts again:
1. It's now confirmed that the Russian ex-agent, his daugher , a policeman were poisoned by Novichok.
2. This operation needed a big organization behind it ("A state actor").
3. Russia has the means and motivation to poison.
4. Russia refuses to cooperate with the OPCW, instead calling for useless meetings of the security council.

The OPCW can investigate "Technically" - if it finds a site in Russia with the same poison it will prove that Russia attacked in the UK.
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Daily Mail: Russia 'tested using nerve agent which poisoned spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter on door handles'

"Russia has explored carrying out assassinations by placing nerve agent Novichok on door handles, the Daily Mail can reveal.

Police have already disclosed they believe Sergei Skripal and his daughter were poisoned in Salisbury after the poison was smeared on the double agent’s front door.

Now British intelligence agencies have evidence that Russia had been testing the deadly agent specifically on door handles in the run-up to the attack on March 3."


Wonder if Corbyn and Co will continue seeking to undermine the government's position even in light of this news.
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

According to an alleged phone call...
The alleged Yulia tells her cousin Viktoria: "Everything is ok. He [her father] is resting now, having a sleep. Everyone's health is fine, there are no irreparable things. I will be discharged soon. Everything is ok."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43652574
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Now British intelligence agencies have evidence that Russia had been testing the deadly agent specifically on door handles in the run-up to the attack on March 3."[/I]
They also had "evidence" for WMD.
I wonder if US is really up to something with the Russkies and they're now trying to sway the public opinion sentiment before some further actions.
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According to an alleged phone call...
The alleged Yulia tells her cousin Viktoria: "Everything is ok. He [her father] is resting now, having a sleep. Everyone's health is fine, there are no irreparable things. I will be discharged soon. Everything is ok."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43652574
Ah, very reassuring. If that's genuine, it suggests that one or both of them are having their phones tapped by the Russian authorities, and why would they be doing that?
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

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Ah, very reassuring. If that's genuine, it suggests that one or both of them are having their phones tapped by the Russian authorities, and why would they be doing that?
Could also be that the cousin taped it and sold it to the media for a gazzilion of tiny roubles.

Whichever it would be it would be interesting to know who did it however. Guess the russian commentators didn't bothered to mention it, did they?
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Old 05.04.2018, 17:07
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Yulia Skripal issues statement: 'My strength is growing daily'

I woke up over a week ago now and am glad to say my strength is growing daily. I am grateful for the interest in me and for the many messages of goodwill that I have received," Skripal said in a statement released on her behalf by London's Metropolitan Police.

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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

UK Security services believe they have pinpointed the location of the covert Russian laboratory that manufactured the weapons-grade nerve agent used in Salisbury.

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UK Security services believe they have pinpointed the location of the covert Russian laboratory that manufactured the weapons-grade nerve agent used in Salisbury.

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Not one step further.
<<Security sources do not claim 100% certainty but the source has insisted that they have a high degree of confidence in the location. They also believe that the Russians conducted tests to see whether novichok could be used for assassinations.>>

This article was for the bin. A waste of the reader's time.
They should just shut up, get to work and come back when all the bold stuff is not in the text anymore.
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Not one step further.
<<Security sources do not claim 100% certainty but the source has insisted that they have a high degree of confidence in the location. They also believe that the Russians conducted tests to see whether novichok could be used for assassinations.>>

This article was for the bin. A waste of the reader's time.
They should just shut up, get to work and come back when all the bold stuff is not in the text anymore.
If those are really your unrealistic expectations then I recommend you stop reading this thread to avoid continued disappointments.
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Old 05.04.2018, 18:09
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If those are really your unrealistic expectations then I recommend you stop reading this thread to avoid continued disappointments.
Naaa, that's alright, I learnt to deal with disappointments in life.

And many unrealistic expectations have been surprisingly compliable - so I have no reason to give up.
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