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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Apparently the latest victim has a history of ‘dumpster diving’. A sealed container put into a dumpster is unlikely to leak into the environment for a few years. But they didn’t expect anyone to dive ...
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Old 08.07.2018, 23:30
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

!It was announced the poisoned lady died today; what a sad and awful business.
She left behind three children.

Who was it claiming the poison does not work?
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Old 08.07.2018, 23:56
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

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!It was announced the poisoned lady died today; what a sad and awful business.
She left behind three children.

Who was it claiming the poison does not work?
Tragic.

So the poison works some of the time, but maybe not on the intended victim. Great weapon...

What's the UK gov. story on what happened to Skripal and daughter? Since they didn't die, have they released any statements about the events of that day? Maybe I just missed it in the news?
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Old 11.07.2018, 15:27
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Novichok victim out of critical condition and speaking to police.
Met officers say they have had brief conversation with Charlie Rowley in hospital

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/11/novichok-victim-charlie-rowley-speaks-to-police-nerve-agent
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

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Apparently the latest victim has a history of ‘dumpster diving’. A sealed container put into a dumpster is unlikely to leak into the environment for a few years. But they didn’t expect anyone to dive ...
If something had been put in a dumpster in March, you'd think the dumpster would have been emptied long before now, unless someone had retrieved something at the time and somehow kept it before being poisoned months later.
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Old 13.07.2018, 19:01
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

A bottle discovered in the home of Novichok victim Charlie Rowley has been identified as the source of the nerve agent that killed his partner, London's Metropolitan Police said.

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If it was in a bottle it allays the concerns about the poison not dissipating rapidly in the atmosphere.

Hopefully the bottle is labelled in Cyrillic script.
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Old 13.07.2018, 19:41
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A bottle discovered in the home of Novichok victim Charlie Rowley has been identified as the source of the nerve agent that killed his partner, London's Metropolitan Police said.

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If it was in a bottle it allays the concerns about the poison not dissipating rapidly in the atmosphere.

Hopefully the bottle is labelled in Cyrillic script.
Yes, indeed. Now is the time to wrap up this sorry tale without further alarm to the public.
I simply hope that those charged with ending this affair put some effort into giving the send off at least some semblance of plausibility.
If the 'investigation' is still under political control, it will not now be Vladimir Putin's, but Donald Trump's and Boris Johnson's fingerprints which will be found on that phial.
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Old 13.07.2018, 20:10
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Yes, indeed. Now is the time to wrap up this sorry tale without further alarm to the public.
I simply hope that those charged with ending this affair put some effort into giving the send off at least some semblance of plausibility.
If the 'investigation' is still under political control, it will not now be Vladimir Putin's, but Donald Trump's and Boris Johnson's fingerprints which will be found on that phial.
There is an implicit assumption in your post that "the 'investigation' is under political control"; do you have a source for this claim?
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Old 13.07.2018, 21:18
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There is an implicit assumption in your post that "the 'investigation' is under political control"; do you have a source for this claim?
Indeed. "D" notices affecting what the (UK) press can report during the course of an investigation (or otherwise) are not simply issued by members of the general public. These are one of the instruments under political control in this whole sorry case for controlling the information made available to the public.

Of course, I have no specific evidence that a "D" notice has been issued in the context of the now 4 suspected Salisbury poisoning cases, because their existence is itself a secret, but the lethargy and supine posture of the so called media in the UK in this case can be attributed only to their ["D" Notices ] existence.

Further, the content and timing of "leaks" from the enquiry hint at a high level of political control, however, it is in the nature of "leaks" that they are difficult to attribute and this is indeed the rationale for leaking information instead of publishing it with appropriate attribution.

Who knows? May be the PM is now preparing to ascribe the whole plot to a "Black Op" conducted by a rogue Foreign Minister in collusion with an (unnamed) foreign power (of which the FM could have been a deemed citizen up until recently).
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Old 13.07.2018, 21:28
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

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Just conspiracy theories with no evidential foundation!

Eventually the truth will emerge and you may be proven to have been correct or shown to be stupid
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Just conspiracy theories with no evidential foundation!

Eventually the truth will emerge and you may be proven to have been correct or shown to be stupid
Conspiracy theories are at their most fertile when there is little plausible official information.
I'm not sure that we will be in a position to recognise the truth, should such ever emerge out of this matter.

Anyway, on the subject of conspiracy theories, who were the Skripals intending to meet at that famous park bench on that fateful day? Surely the police now have extracted that information from Sergei Skripal.
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

A British man who was being treated for exposure to the Soviet-era nerve agent Novichok was discharged from the hospital Friday, according to a hospital official.

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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

Surprise, surprise - enough evidence to ask for


extradition from Russia.

Can't rule out that the suspects will die in a car accident or fall backwards on a knife several times.
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

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Positive statement but just adds to the mixed messages on Russia from this administration.

Trump has no strategy; just tactics which often do not align well together.
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Surprise, surprise - enough evidence to ask for


extradition from Russia.

Can't rule out that the suspects will die in a car accident or fall backwards on a knife several times.
Which country extradites it's own people to an other country?!?

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Positive statement but just adds to the mixed messages on Russia from this administration.

Trump has no strategy; just tactics which often do not align well together.
The US imposes sanctions on a pending case in ..... England?!?
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Which country extradites it's own people to an other country?!?
US and Canada do it.
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US and Canada do it.
And UK, around 4 British citizens per year extradited to the US over the last ten years; many more to the EU
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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK

So it appears the British government were right and the two suspects, are known Russian GRU agents that visited Salisbury just subsequently before, prior, pre, in advance of, the poisoning.



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...e-two-suspects

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So it appears the British government were right and the two suspects, are known Russian GRU agents that visited Salisbury just subsequently to the poisoning.
Sorry, couldn't help myself...


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Re: Poisoning of two Russians and a police officer in Salisbury, UK


Its no coincidence
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