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Fish Paste 13.03.2018 16:41

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It won't be long before the UK retaliate with a strongly worded letter.

Reb77Br 13.03.2018 16:54

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Interesting to see that Brexit campaigner Arron Banks, whose wife is Russian and whose ability to be so generous to the Brexit cause has been questioned, is taking a pro-Russian stance.

"In crime you look for a motive , itís almost enough to make you think the Russianís are being set up?"
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/stat...98892738863104

"Heís got a point
Albert Trigg
Who benefits from the Skripal incident and anti Russia propaganda? Russia? ◊ A Tory party behind in the polls? ✓ Underfunded UK Military & intelligence? ✓ US Neo-Con's? ✓ A corporate Tory media? ✓ Arms corporations? ✓ Bought & paid for Blairite MPs? ✓"
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/stat...38297409662977

Tom1234 13.03.2018 17:04

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Originally Posted by Reb77Br (Post 2921649)
"In crime you look for a motive , itís almost enough to make you think the Russianís are being set up?"
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/stat...98892738863104

Is he a greengrocer?

PaddyG 14.03.2018 12:21

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Another Putin critic found dead in his London home.

Reb77Br 14.03.2018 12:34

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Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2921944)
Another Putin critic found dead in his London home.

His death is said to be unexplained. Wonder if they'll find the cause.

It looks as if many in Salisbury may be at risk and that there may not be much hope for Skripal and his daughter.

Novichok inventor says hundreds could be at risk for years

"A Russian chemical weapons scientist has told Sky News that people exposed to even tiny traces of the nerve agent used to attack a spy and his daughter in Salisbury could be in danger of developing symptoms in years to come. ...

He said it would leave those exposed to significant doses, like Mr Skripal and his daughter, as "invalids" who would need medical assistance for the rest of their lives."

Rob 14.03.2018 12:42

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Apparently as a protest England will leave the World Cup after the group stages.

PaddyG 14.03.2018 13:19

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After May's accusations and talk of retaliatory measures, it seems Putin has made some quite stark threats along the lines of "Don't threaten a nuclear power" :msnshock:.

Do you think he can act so bold because he knows his orange lap-dog won't do anything? ;)

Treverus 14.03.2018 13:57

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Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2921992)
After May's accusations and talk of retaliatory measures, it seems Putin has made some quite stark threats along the lines of "Don't threaten a nuclear power" :msnshock:.

Do you think he can act so bold because he knows his orange lap-dog won't do anything? ;)

There is an election in Russia and that sort of thing is very popular with the Russian equivalent of the Brexit or Trump voters... "Make Russia great again"...

He also knows that May is not exactly in a position to do a lot either.

curley 14.03.2018 14:09

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Two things puzzle me:

It's too darn obvious that the killings are done by the Russians. So they might noth be.

Treason must be a crime in GB. So why do people asking for asylum due to treason in their home-countries receive asylum in GB?

Blueangel 14.03.2018 14:17

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Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 2921992)
After May's accusations and talk of retaliatory measures, it seems Putin has made some quite stark threats along the lines of "Don't threaten a nuclear power" :msnshock:.

She needs to grow a pair and to tell him to go screw himself with a big stick, the dickwad. He's just being a gobshite and more fool her for not biting his head off.

Treverus 14.03.2018 14:21

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Originally Posted by curley (Post 2922027)
Treason must be a crime in GB. So why do people asking for asylum due to treason in their home-countries receive asylum in GB?

They are double agents. They spied for the UK... treason for one side is a hero for the other in this game.

Reb77Br 14.03.2018 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 2922027)
Two things puzzle me:

It's too darn obvious that the killings are done by the Russians. So they might noth be.

Treason must be a crime in GB. So why do people asking for asylum due to treason in their home-countries receive asylum in GB?

Saying it's too obvious is assuming that Russia wouldn't want to be recognised as being responsible.

dandi 14.03.2018 14:31

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Originally Posted by curley (Post 2922027)
It's too darn obvious that the killings are done by the Russians. So they might noth be.

Well, anyone can say "it might not be", but then again, the earth may be flat too... It's pretty obvious that this attempted killing is a political statement from Putin rather than a settling of scores, and the he is the person to mostly gain from this. After all, they've just shown the world they can beat the North Koreeans at targeted killing on foreign soil... Except that this time they managed to poison a UK police officer as well.

Quote:

Treason must be a crime in GB. So why do people asking for asylum due to treason in their home-countries receive asylum in GB?
Because they collaborated to the benefit of GB?

Blueangel 14.03.2018 14:49

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Originally Posted by curley (Post 2922027)
Two things puzzle me:

One thing puzzles me, or mayne it had escaped my notice, but yesterday was the first time I heard it reported that Yulia Skripa flew from Moscow to Heathrow on 3 March. Could the nerve agent have been in her luggage?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43315636

curley 14.03.2018 15:18

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Originally Posted by Reb77Br (Post 2922040)
Saying it's too obvious is assuming that Russia wouldn't want to be recognised as being responsible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandi (Post 2922043)
Well, anyone can say "it might not be", but then again, the earth may be flat too... It's pretty obvious that this attempted killing is a political statement from Putin rather than a settling of scores, and the he is the person to mostly gain from this. After all, they've just shown the world they can beat the North Koreeans at targeted killing on foreign soil... Except that this time they managed to poison a UK police officer as well.

Because they collaborated to the benefit of GB?

Interesting reactions and exactly to my point :rolleyes:

I'm not at all against suspecting Russia. I'm against this up-to-date attitude of "guilty before proven".
Plus, I would really like to know the truth (totally outdated attitude to life, I know :rolleyes:)

dandi 14.03.2018 15:27

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Originally Posted by Blueangel (Post 2922055)
One thing puzzles me, or mayne it had escaped my notice, but yesterday was the first time I heard it reported that Yulia Skripa flew from Moscow to Heathrow on 3 March. Could the nerve agent have been in her luggage?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43315636

I guess it could but it would have been rather risky - she could have discovered it early, it could have been discovered at the airport or it could have been accidentally released early, etc.

Without knowing more of the actual substance speculations will flourish - that's the one thing you can be sure of... the propaganda machine will make sure of that

dandi 14.03.2018 15:39

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Originally Posted by curley (Post 2922089)
Interesting reactions and exactly to my point :rolleyes:

I'm not at all against suspecting Russia. I'm against this up-to-date attitude of "guilty before proven".
Plus, I would really like to know the truth (totally outdated attitude to life, I know :rolleyes:)

I totally agree. I hope there is an investigation at least as detailed and conclusive as in the Litvinienko case. I actually have a good level of confidence that the UK investigators will do that

bigblue2 14.03.2018 15:50

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Originally Posted by dandi (Post 2922101)
I totally agree. I hope there is an investigation at least as detailed and conclusive as in the Litvinienko case. I actually have a good level of confidence that the UK investigators will do that

LOL you mean the public enquiry mrs may herself held up? or the 14 (is it) other strange deaths in the uk linked to russia that where not investigated / rushed. My favorite is the spy who padlocked himself inside a duffel bag, in the bath with the heating turned full up, who was left for 10 days to rot, nothing strange in that one.

bigblue2 14.03.2018 15:56

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and of course the uk / usa would never kill there own, would they???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEC-Ma...spiracy_theory

some real classics on there too

Tom1234 14.03.2018 15:56

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Originally Posted by dandi (Post 2922096)
I guess it could but it would have been rather risky - she could have discovered it early, it could have been discovered at the airport or it could have been accidentally released early, etc.


If it had been released in an enclosed space (such as an aircraft cabin), the result could have been the deaths of hundreds.

I'd hate to think of the repercussions in that scenario.


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