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Old 02.07.2018, 18:01
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Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

What wonderful news. The 12 boys missing for 10 days and their football coach have been found alive and well.


This is really, really, wonderful news!
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

Yep, great news for a change!

Got a link?

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Yep, great news for a change!

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Sky News has good coverage so far SM.
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

Thailand cave: The successful search for lost boys
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Missing Thai boys found!..

..but they'll have to spend the next 4 months sitting on a small ledge in a dark cave!

https://www.bbc.com/news


It's such good news but at the same time, holy moly, this is going to be one crazy logistical operation. Divers will have to bring them food, clothes, blankets, etc. on a regular basis. I guess maybe the parents might be able to learn to cave dive to go see their kids? What about the poo? Will rescue workers be transporting buckets of excrement out of there to maintain sanitary conditions?

I have a feeling this will turn into a reality show type media circus with the whole world watching.
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Old 03.07.2018, 08:19
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Re: Missing Thai boys found!..

Just saw that!

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Old 03.07.2018, 08:21
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Re: Missing Thai boys found!..

Kudos to the British cave rescue experts who found the lads

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Mr Volanthen and Richard Stanton had been called in by the Thai authorities along with another British caving expert, Robert Harper.

The trio arrived in Thailand three days after the football team went missing. More than 1,000 people have been involved in the operation, from all over the world.
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

It'll be interesting to see how they get them out!
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

It's highly unlikely they'll be trapped there for four months. The rescuers will find a way to pump the water out, teach the rescuees(TM) to dive and lead them out, or even drill down to them from above. Four months trapped in the dark would be almost unimaginable.
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

They'll be tough how to swim and dive which will take some time, divers who take them out will want to be certain that the boys do not get a panic attack when diving their 2km deep way out and cave diving is a speciality. And drilling from above is no option since the ceiling might collapse, besides that drilling a hole of 50cm wide and a km deep would take weeks/months of preparations/calculations and time and a huge installation of which I am not sure it could even be placed on the mountain above them.

(I've worked at a mining complex for salt, and it took us several weeks to get one new mine drilled of about 15cm wide and 1,5km deep, not even to mention how long it took to get a 20 meter high installation in and build to do the drilling)

If they do not learn to dive, they will unfortunately spend as time in there as is needed for the water to lower again.
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

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Kudos to the British cave rescue experts who found the lads
This. They were volunteers too.

There are a lot of threads on here criticising the U.K. but the people still come up trumps in times of need.

No need for a good samaritan law in the U.K.
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They'll be tough how to swim and dive which will take some time, divers who take them out will want to be certain that the boys do not get a panic attack when diving their 2km deep way out and cave diving is a speciality. And drilling from above is no option since the ceiling might collapse, besides that drilling a hole of 50cm wide and a km deep would take weeks/months of preparations/calculations and time and a huge installation of which I am not sure it could even be placed on the mountain above them.

(I've worked at a mining complex for salt, and it took us several weeks to get one new mine drilled of about 15cm wide and 1,5km deep, not even to mention how long it took to get a 20 meter high installation in and build to do the drilling)

If they do not learn to dive, they will unfortunately spend as time in there as is needed for the water to lower again.
They're a kilometre deep?! I hadn't realised that.

Back to the pumps idea, then...
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Old 03.07.2018, 12:17
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They're a kilometre deep?! I hadn't realised that.

Back to the pumps idea, then...
It's a huge caving complex, and their nearest exit is 2km away, and above them there's a kilometer of mountain. Pumping only works if all water entries can be closed.

In this situation it's best to just have some patience, give them enough food and drinks for some days so they strengthen up again, teach them in the meanwhile how to handle the diving equipment and than the divers will guide them out. If one or more of them have such fear that diving is a no go he/they should accept that he/they brought themselves in a situation where there is no other way out soon.
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In this situation it's best to just have some patience, give them enough food and drinks for some days so they strengthen up again, teach them in the meanwhile how to handle the diving equipment and than the divers will guide them out
I'm just going to put this out there...

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Old 03.07.2018, 13:17
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

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I'm just going to put this out there...

Probably the passages are too small for such things.

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If one or more of them have such fear that diving is a no go he/they should accept that he/they brought themselves in a situation where there is no other way out soon.
A) they’re kids
B) they followed their instructor there
C) they’re kids


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A) they’re kids
B) they followed their instructor there
C) they’re kids


Damn, man.
I agree it sucks major and that they are kids, but this does not change the situation. Also I did not ment it in an accusing manner.
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I'm just going to put this out there...

If it all would be so simple, I'd say that the amount of professionals involved in this is so huge that they would have done this already.

They will need to learn line-laying since the water has very low visibility, and the mental aspect of following a line in complete darkness inside such cave system knowing that faults, defects or panic are very likely to get you killed should not be under-estimated. Many people would never dare such under the best situations, and now these boys have to make their choice.

And let's not forget that even tho inconvenient, they are fully safe where they are and properly being taken care of by medics, so there is no rush, and if needed they can spend a long time in there.
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And let's not forget that even tho inconvenient, they are fully safe where they are and properly being taken care of by medics, so there is no rush, and if needed they can spend a long time in there.
Rain season has only started, that may mean a rising water level. They're perhaps two meters above the water, so waiting may not be that much of an option.
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Re: Thai Boys Missing in Thailand Caves Found Alive!

I don't think the kids will be learning to dive in the next few days. According to this, :

"Diver Ben Reymenants is assisting with the rescue mission and says none of the boys can swim."



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44692813
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