As far as I know, the stats only collect the number of people who received a vaccination, not the number of vaccinations that were succesful or effective.

So the number of effectively unvaccinated individuals could well be slightly higher than those 5 percent.

Add to this the potential affects of people living here only temporarily, or tourists and other individuals whoe stay is of ultra short duration, and actually probably nobody has an accurate grip on the real proportions and dynamics, just estimates.

Haven't read the thread, and apologies if I'm repeating, but

- We're all responsible adults and / or parents
- who on earth would put their childrens' health into play

Plenty of people, mostly out of ignorance and an unwillingness to listen to facts or experts because they believe their little corner of the internet is right!

Or they are pressurised by their 'friends' and work colleagues not to have their children vaccinated.

Alas, all of my friends and work colleagues are intelligent, so no anti-vaxxers there!

Tom

There's a book that the anti-vaccination folks have been pushing called IMPFEN PRO & CONTRA... It's ... weak. I mean, this makes sense for the children without livers, or the children with broken livers? Children with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease? Children with liver transplants? Or severe genetic problems?

That's why much of Central Europe has moved up the MMR vaccine. It used to be at 15 months and then right before school. The last few outbreaks has meant more deaths and the vaccination is now encouraged to be done earlier around 9 months and 15-18 months. Under 4 years is unfortunately the age when healthy kids can die of measles.

As in Australia, indeed education is not just a right, but an obligation (as it is here, too), whether free (available to all) or otherwise.

More information needed. It's irrelevant whether the pinhead is round, square, oblong or otherwise. The surface area is the only relevant criterion.

Or did you mean "curved"?

That's fine. Just have a school with no vaccination requirements. Everybody can enjoy their diseases in peace.

I always assumed that the whole thing was a simple misunderstanding based on a spelling error and it's, in fact, "how many angles fit on the head of a pin".

The answer is then, an infinite number. (Actually, uncountably infinite[1] if we assume the angles are described by real numbers.)

[1] By which I mean that there cannot be a bijection between the set of angles (on the head of a pin) and the set of natural numbers.

Lets work up to the Friday thread slowly.

Which direction of curvature do you mean?

Is this a euclidean or a non euclidean pin?

Two points (!)

1. The head is the non-pointy end
   
2. If you're using a pin for sewing on buttons, I can see why you need to give them to someone else to do for you

We also need to know the physics of angels. Are they subject to gravity? Can they hang upside down, like wasps?

Also, do the angels need to be standing directly on the pinhead? Can we stack them?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...t7S1e0z4-GpBLQ

According to Billy Collins, it's just the one.

I wonder if that's where Billy Bragg stole "Then she cut her hair and I stopped loving her"?

I thought discussion of curvature was off limits, for fear of upsetting the tinfoil hat brigade.

I doubt anyone uses 2,300-year-old pins to store their angels. Modern ones would be more reliable, and come with a guarantee.

Sure, it's both. But for this the aspect of a right is key, it's not just some kind of permission you can suspend relatively easily (as can happen with a drivers license, for example).

You're avoiding the question, aren't you?

A right to education or even the obligation to attend school are not the same as the right to attend the school of your choice.

Huh? Feel free to scroll up.