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I still dont know why the Saudis didn't say that the hit squad were just a football team who had wanted to visit the Hagia Sophia as they had heard it had a wonderous dome. Seriously won't these assassins ever learn?

Even Trip Advisor has a list of things to do on a day trip in Istanbul.
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The prince’s confusion soon turned into rage. “He was really shocked that there was such a big reaction to it,” said a person close to the royal court. “He feels betrayed by the West. He said he would look elsewhere and he will never forget how people turned against him before evidence was produced.”
To be fair, he has a point. They can blow up the twin towers, blow up a bus of school children, threaten a Canadian 9/11 and he get's pulled up for killing a journalist??

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To be fair, he has a point. They can blow up the twin towers, blow up a bus of school children, threaten a Canadian 9/11 and he get's pulled up for killing a journalist??
Maybe there's something governments find particularly abhorrent about a country taking out it's enemies on foreign soil rather than on home turf?

I'm thinking about Kim Jong-nam im Malaysia and the various Russians in the U.K.

The press certainly likes a good old assassination to sell copy.
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Old 24.10.2018, 17:10
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Re: Khashoggi in Saudi Embassy.

Where exactly was the outcry when Obama had Bin Laden murdered in Pakistan? On film?

All the fuss chosing judges for a court that gets bypassed.

I was shocked back then, I am now and all the times in between. But the scary problem here is that it becomes normal.
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Maybe there's something governments find particularly abhorrent about a country taking out it's enemies on foreign soil rather than on home turf?

I'm thinking about Kim Jong-nam im Malaysia and the various Russians in the U.K.

The press certainly likes a good old assassination to sell copy.

He made the mistake that he used a country that was looking for an excuse to blow up a scandal. That is the unforgivable political mistake that hits him so hard.
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Old 24.10.2018, 17:22
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Where exactly was the outcry when Obama had Bin Laden murdered in Pakistan? On film?
Bin Laden was a top terrorist who resisted arrest with a gun in his hand. That's a little different from some journalist picking up paperwork for his marriage at an embassy.


I am sure Obama would have rather presented him to the world in a trial in the way they did with Saddam... and not create a martyr.
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lol.
Very mature.

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My favourite is the post where she realises that she can't take anything seriously written by someone who calls himself "Dougal's Breakfast" on an internet forum.

You'd think the clue would be in the name! ��
Why? I have no idea what your username means or suggests. Are you so important that I should Google it? Your posts are enough for me to figure out that half if not more of what you post here is not worth taking seriously.


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But her own user name means "cat" in Turkish
And? What's with all this talk about usernames and their significance? I chose the username without giving it a second's thought. I never thought to a make this forum the centre of my life like your lot, even when I was new here.

You guys really should get a life or a job or better jobs if you are stuck in jobs where the most you do is twiddle your thumbs all day in between posting to this forum.
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Very mature.



Why? I have no idea what your username means or suggests. Are you so important that I should Google it? Your posts are enough for me to figure out that half if not more of what you post here is not worth taking seriously.




And? What's with all this talk about usernames and their significance? I chose the username without giving it a second's thought. I never thought to a make this forum the centre of my life like your lot, even when I was new here.

You guys really should get a life or a job or better jobs if you are stuck in jobs where the most you do is twiddle your thumbs all day in between posting to this forum.
Kedi: very intelligent, has a great job and social life, is loads of fun at parties.

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Never claimed I was but thanks.

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Has "a" job, not great but enough to keep me from lurking in forums being nasty to everyone.

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Sick comment banalising this whole thing!
I agree, this is no laughing matter but what do you expect in a forum where replying "Prostitution is an option" to queries about job search is the norm?
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I agree, this is no laughing matter but what do you expect in a forum where replying "Prostitution is an option" to queries about job search is the norm?
This is a phenomenon I used to call "rich people from shit countries" - I stopped using the latter expression when Mr Trump got in on the act, and I've come to realise that the former isn't entirely the truth, but the essence still holds: I'm guessing your average Zeynep and Berat from Samsun neither write perfect English nor land decent jobs in Switzerland. The kind of people from Turkey - or Brazil, Romania, Bulgaria or Ecuador - who end up on EF are rich, ambitious and/or intelligent. They are accustomed to mixing with other rich, ambitious and/or intelligent foreigners who converse in English because it's an international language which they have acquired through sheer hard work and the will to succeed, perhaps in addition to two or three other languages such as French or German.

These people - for whose efforts, incidentally, I have immense respect - even if I find them irritating on a personal level - arrive on EF with the expectation that the crowd will be similarly intelligent and ambitious.

Unfortunately, quite a lot of us are the British and Irish equivalents of Zeynep and Berat from Samsun, who, through the jammy and entirely undeserved good fortune of having grown up speaking English and having benefited from the ridiculous lack of discrimination which comes with the Free Movement of People, have washed up in Switzerland alongside all these rich, ambitious and/or intelligent people from less fortunate corners of the planet who got here through their own efforts. To put it bluntly: quite a lot of us are scum. We are poorly educated, full of nonsense and out to take the piss because we miss the pub arguments of our dingy, sticky-carpeted pubs back home. We congregate on EF because it's the closest thing we have to the Dog and Duck.

It's a cultural mismatch, and it results in all kinds of misunderstandings. Like I said above: did you really expect an intelligent conversation with someone who calls himself "Dougal's Breakfast" on an internet forum? You don't need to google it to see that it is a ridiculous username. I'm here for lulz, to talk bollocks, to wind people up and put off filling the dishwasher. Meanwhile, you're expecting to have an intelligent conversation about the world's response to yet another journalist being murdered by a shitty regime with a long history of being shitty.

It doesn't help that you have a history of taking offence where none was intended. That's by the by. The fact is that many of us are simply not good enough for you - and that is neither your fault nor ours.

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this is a phenomenon i used to call "rich people from shit countries" - i stopped using the latter expression when mr trump got in on the act, and i've come to realise that the former isn't entirely the truth, but the essence still holds: I'm guessing your average zeynep and berat from samsun neither write perfect english nor land decent jobs in switzerland. The kind of people from turkey - or brazil, romania, bulgaria or ecuador - who end up on ef are rich, ambitious and/or intelligent. They are accustomed to mixing with other rich, ambitious and/or intelligent foreigners who converse in english because it's an international language which they have acquired through sheer hard work and the will to succeed, perhaps in addition to two or three other languages such as french or german.

These people - for whose efforts, incidentally, i have immense respect - even if i find them irritating on a personal level - arrive on ef with the expectation that the crowd will be similarly intelligent and ambitious.

Unfortunately, quite a lot of us are the british and irish equivalents of zeynep and berat from samsun, who, through the jammy and entirely undeserved good fortune of having grown up speaking english and having benefited from the ridiculous lack of discrimination which comes with the free movement of people, have washed up in switzerland alongside all these rich, ambitious and/or intelligent people from less fortunate corners of the planet who got here through their own efforts. To put it bluntly: Quite a lot of us are scum. We are poorly educated, full of nonsense and out to take the piss because we miss the pub arguments of our dingy, sticky-carpeted pubs back home. We congregate on ef because it's the closest thing we have to the dog and duck.

It's a cultural mismatch, and it results in all kinds of misunderstandings. Like i said above: Did you really expect an intelligent conversation with someone who calls himself "dougal's breakfast" on an internet forum? You don't need to google it to see that it is a ridiculous username. I'm here for lulz, to talk bollocks, to wind people up and put off filling the dishwasher. Meanwhile, you're expecting to have an intelligent conversation about the world's response to yet another journalist being murdered by a shitty regime with a long history of being shitty.

It doesn't help that you have a history of taking offence where none was intended. That's by the by. The fact is that many of us are simply not good enough for you - and that is neither your fault nor ours.

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Victoria Marinova - Raped and beat to death, October 2018 Bulgaria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Marinova
Briefly and quickly: they caught the murderer. I don't know what to make out of this case, they either made it look like a brutal, senseless crime which has made it to the global news because accidentally the victim is a journalist, young and popular, or it is indeed a sadistic execution mafia style. There are some facts to support both theories. I hope the general public will put so much pressure on the investigation team that they will leave no stone unturned and find out who's behind this, if it's not just a senseless, heinous, random sexual assault as it looks now. She might have received serious threats but then again, she went jogging alone, as part of regular routine, which might indicate that she didn't think she's in danger. I don't know what to believe, seriously, but it's sad that journalism became a dangerous profession in some place.

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Does anyone know where Mr Khashoggi bought his watch? I wouldn't mind having one with such remarkable bluetooth capabilities...
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Like I said above: did you really expect an intelligent conversation with someone who calls himself "Dougal's Breakfast" on an internet forum?
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Incidentally, and without wishing to derail this thread, I am curious about the origins of this screen name now that it has become an issue here. Of course, the explanation could be that it is completely random but I also thought that it could have been derived from the expression "a dog's breakfast" where Dougal is a dog and, indeed, there is a well known (fictional) dog named Dougal.
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Incidentally, and without wishing to derail this thread, I am curious about the origins of this screen name now that it has become an issue here. Of course, the explanation could be that it is completely random but I also thought that it could have been derived from the expression "a dog's breakfast" where Dougal is a dog and, indeed, there is a well known (fictional) dog named Dougal.
I used to have a dog called Dougal who enjoyed his breakfast.

Not one of my most inspired internet usernames, I have to admit.
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I used to have a dog called Dougal who enjoyed his breakfast.

Not one of my most inspired internet usernames, I have to admit.
Are you sure its not Dougalsarse Breakfast?
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Incidentally, and without wishing to derail this thread, I am curious about the origins of this screen name now that it has become an issue here. Of course, the explanation could be that it is completely random but I also thought that it could have been derived from the expression "a dog's breakfast" where Dougal is a dog and, indeed, there is a well known (fictional) dog named Dougal.
I am relieved not to be the only one who has no clue what this username means. For a second I thought it must be my lack of info about British culture.
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Are you sure its not Dougalsarse Breakfast?
I saw what you did there. You added "arse" to his name. That's amazing. You're amazing. Can I kiss you?
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I saw what you did there. You added "arse" to his name. That's amazing. Can I kiss you?
Be careful with offering to kiss: Based on the aforementioned post, he might offer another part of his anatomy to be kissed.

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