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Old 01.03.2020, 14:20
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Because they don't entertain enough, me thinks.

Why is Soros anti FB and anti Trump? $$$$ ?
Soros is a long time Democrat and megadonor, 2018 donations $20,135,586.

I assume this is a rhetorical question?

Soros has donated $12 billion to charities so I doubt he is looking for $$$$?
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Old 01.03.2020, 14:46
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A strange article, she comes over as a Trump fangirl but then wrote: "I’ll be changing my voter registration from Democrat to Independent"?

Somehow lacks logic that her epiphany came as a result of some left-wing trolls in her knitting forum. I suppose as soon as she joins a forum with right-wing trolls she will switch back?

As the lady herself wrote, "I do not believe that Trump’s attitude is worthy of the highest office in the land."

Possibly Trump will win in 2020, the incumbent usually does. However, we do in the real world have the incredible shrinking Republican party!

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According to data from Ballot Access News, independents make up 29.09 percent of registered voters, while Republicans make up 28.87 percent and Democrats make up 39.66 percent
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With so many Democrats you would imagine a GOP candidate had no chance. But the GOP plays a clever and corrupt end game of gerrymandering plus the Electoral College does not give the prize to the popular vote.
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Old 01.03.2020, 14:55
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Soros has donated $12 billion to charities so I doubt he is looking for $$$$?
Most of those are charities that he either runs or has some say in.

So it would be remarkable if indeed he wasn't getting any kickback.
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Maybe only true for certain values of education and science.

What is the value of knowledge and education if they stop teaching humility and respect? Years of pie in the sky and ivory tower academics confirming one another's theories (and hate of "deplorables") is precisely what brought Trump to power.

Maybe academia needs to take a good long look in the mirror and then rediscover its core values.
The destruction of education is happening at k-12, mostly....I inferred nothing about “academia”. But any opportunity.......

As for science, I am talking about the dismantlement of the public health response - it’s been ongoing.

Certain values of science? You mean like Trump saying the virus was a hoax (although he walked that one back).
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Old 01.03.2020, 15:14
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Even better. But I disagree on that. Deep down he wants to improve his opponents, since it means improving the country he leads. He is too investments/return oriented to just do stunts for laughs.
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Most of those are charities that he either runs or has some say in.

So it would be remarkable if indeed he wasn't getting any kickback.
Do you have any evidence to support your allegation of kickbacks? Anyway a nonsense allegation, why would he want a kickback from his own money? It makes no sense. He could achieve the same effect by simply giving less away.

Or is it just some sort of anti-semitic thing?
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Old 01.03.2020, 15:17
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Maybe only true for certain values of education and science.

What is the value of knowledge and education if they stop teaching humility and respect? Years of pie in the sky and ivory tower academics confirming one another's theories (and hate of "deplorables") is precisely what brought Trump to power.

Maybe academia needs to take a good long look in the mirror and then rediscover its core values.
Ah, Trump; the epitome of humility and respect?
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Or is it just some sort of anti-semitic thing?
Where did that come from?
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Old 01.03.2020, 15:36
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As for science, I am talking about the dismantlement of the public health response - it’s been ongoing.
So you backpedal from all of science to one example.

That didn't take long, did it?

The EF isn't what it used to be.
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So you backpedal from all of science to one example.

That didn't take long, did it?

The EF isn't what it used to be.
Then why bother wasting your precious insights?
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A strange article, she comes over as a Trump fangirl but then wrote: "I’ll be changing my voter registration from Democrat to Independent"?
Sounds like she was left quite impressed by high-energy Trump

'It was so different than any other political event I had ever attended. Even the energy around Barack Obama in 2008 didn’t feel like this.'
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Then why bother wasting your precious insights?
phase 2, when you've lost the argument, get personal.
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why would he want a kickback from his own money? It makes no sense.
Umm, that is the whole point of kickbacks!

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Besides the entertaining, a lot of people do not really vote in favour, but they do vote against. If you are against Trump and want to avoid having him as president again it only makes sense to vote in favour of the democrats instead of a political meaningless vote for small parties like the greens or libertarians.
I’m very much against Trumpism, but I think I’d possibly be even more anti Bernie. I’d rather have offensive and untrue twitter comments than a damaged economy. But most people vote on culture war issues liberal v social conservative and care less about the economy.

Out of the realistic candidates I’d pick Bloomberg all day long.
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A strange article, she comes over as a Trump fangirl but then wrote: "I’ll be changing my voter registration from Democrat to Independent"?

Somehow lacks logic that her epiphany came as a result of some left-wing trolls in her knitting forum. I suppose as soon as she joins a forum with right-wing trolls she will switch back?

As the lady herself wrote, "I do not believe that Trump’s attitude is worthy of the highest office in the land."

Possibly Trump will win in 2020, the incumbent usually does. However, we do in the real world have the incredible shrinking Republican party!



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With so many Democrats you would imagine a GOP candidate had no chance. But the GOP plays a clever and corrupt end game of gerrymandering plus the Electoral College does not give the prize to the popular vote.
Gerrymandering? Not in presidential elections...

Both parties aggressively gerrymander boundaries for heats in the House.
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IMHO the only Dem candidates capable of beating Trump AND the GOP are Biden or Warren, perhaps Mayor Pete on the outside. The others should drop out ASAP.



The Dems can't just aim to beat Trump, they need to get a senate/house majority to govern. Sanders will blow these chances.



Bernie has a popular base like Trump sure, but he is way too far left to more centrist and swing voters. Bloomberg is helping Sanders by hurting Biden, and Warren hurts herself by beating up on the short guy rather than the old guy.



Unfortunately, the scenario of Trump losing is also scary. The orange guy will NOT leave the WH quietly.
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Re: Will Trump get reelected

Warren has no chance, and hopefully neither that scumbag Bloomberg.

I like Bernie, but his chance was in 2016, not now.

Biden is over the hill, so the situation is a total shambles.

Amy is best at the moment, but won't win.

Anyway, we will see on Wednesday.

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Unfortunately, the scenario of Trump losing is also scary. The orange guy will NOT leave the WH quietly.


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phase 2, when you've lost the argument, get personal.
Well, you suggested that my thinking was not up to snuff first. That was personal. I guess phase 3 is ignore list. OK then.

But in thinking about this discussion - you can’t isolate science to one path. It’s a lot of varied thinking and discipline, Trump’s treatment of public health in general is cynical. He has some of the most accomplished scientists, like Fauci, and he puts a numbskull like Pence in charge - and gags the scientists so they cannot communicate to the public. Fosters disinformation and panic and turns a disease into a political football.

I don’t think he’s an idiot. I think he is not fit to be president. The idea that he wants to improve anything relating to anyone but himself is laughable. Unfortunately, I have no idea who to vote for on the Democratic side. Quandary.
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Gerrymandering? Not in presidential elections...

Both parties aggressively gerrymander boundaries for heats in the House.
Changes in State boundaries?
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Changes in State boundaries?
State boundaries don't change. Congressional district lines change. Those changes do not impact the Electoral College votes, except in Nebraska and Maine, where the EC votes are allocated based on the congressional district votes and not winner-takes-all.

The party that is in power in the state when a census is done is the party that gets to draw the lines. It's a deliberately political process, and for the most part it's done legally.

It's more noticeable lately due to the polarization of the country, and because Republicans have controlled more state houses/senates in census years recently.
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