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Couldn't have put that better myself, permission to use it was widely as possible amongst my bigoted UK 'friends'?

Am awaiting something similar from the frogs; they stopped issuing resident permits to EU nationals years ago but I can see them making an exception for the Brits.
I always thought it was a legal requirement to get a permit after 3 months, I know several Brits who pretend they still live in the UK as they don't want to pay French taxes & social costs. They even have UK EHIC cards......
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Old 28.02.2019, 16:53
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That episode was never shown in Germany.
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I always thought it was a legal requirement to get a permit after 3 months, I know several Brits who pretend they still live in the UK as they don't want to pay French taxes & social costs. They even have UK EHIC cards......
We registered with the local town hall immediately on moving to France from Switzerland, and were issued with residents permit cards, those expired after (I think) five years and when we tried to renew them were told by the secretary that they not longer had to issue physical permits to EU citizens, but that we were still on their list'. I'm just worried they'll suddenly insist that we re-register.

In theory I'm okay as I'm a dual-national (although the irish passport office is being very slow), OH is pure-bred english and rather stuck!

Your friends should be ashamed of themselves, and ought to pay up and suffer along with the rest of us!!!
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Old 28.02.2019, 19:05
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Re: Brexit raising its urine ugly head

Not being allowed to vote has always been one of my pet annoyances, as a British citizen and with the best interest in politics I canīt vote in the UK because of being away since 1972, I canīt vote in Germany as I am not German and now in a few short days I can no longer vote as a European...

Making Slammer a second class citizen, I wonder if I could sue for discrimination?
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Old 28.02.2019, 19:09
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...diiiid not see that one coming.
I just got an Einschreiben from the German Einwohnermeldeamt more or less giving me three options.
One, in case of a free for all brexit I need a residence permit immediately, the forms are included in the letter.
Two, In case of a nice brexit I have a three month grace period to get a residence permit, these forms are also included in the letter.
Three, get the hell out of dodge, OR ELSE...!

Whatīs it like for you pre-brexit Swissy-Brits?
Yes you should urinate on them!
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Not being allowed to vote has always been one of my pet annoyances, as a British citizen and with the best interest in politics I canīt vote in the UK because of being away since 1972, I canīt vote in Germany as I am not German and now in a few short days I can no longer vote as a European...

Making Slammer a second class citizen, I wonder if I could sue for discrimination?
So, you've been out of the country for 47 years and expect to have a say about somewhere that will have changed beyond all recognition. When did you pay taxes there, or NI?

And young people in the UK complain that older UK residents who will be dead before the (possible) consequences hit shouldn't vote...

You left before the UK joined the EU even. Should be neutral for you then.

I assume after 47 years you've collected a 2nd passport.
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Old 01.03.2019, 09:49
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Re: Brexit raising its urine ugly head

British entitlement at its finest by Slammer.
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Old 01.03.2019, 09:57
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British entitlement at its finest by Slammer.
To be fair, the UK is unusual in putting a time limit on expat voting.
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Old 01.03.2019, 10:18
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Re: Brexit raising its urine ugly head

I think slammer is rather complaining about not being allowed to vote anywhere. Personally I think it fair to vote in general elections in your home country and local elections where you are permanently living (and paying taxes).

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Making Slammer a second class citizen, I wonder if I could sue for discrimination?
No - claim asylum on the grounds of political persecution.
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Old 01.03.2019, 10:33
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Re: Brexit raising its urine ugly head

Thread moved to "Int. Affairs". It is not OT. Although it does contain the word "urine" in the title, hmmmm.

Go ahead, guys, be generous to one another with thanks.

TGIF.

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Old 01.03.2019, 10:44
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Re: Brexit raising its urine ugly head

No representation without taxation should be the golden rule. If you pay taxes you should have a say. The UK sucks for not letting people who were there for 5,10,15 years vote on Brexit but they let some randoms in Malta or Cyprus. Same for anyone who doesn't have a link back to their own country for a number of years.


If you are away for let's say 20 years and you don't have any links (property, companies, alimony whatever) then why would you influence those who live there with your vote?



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No representation without taxation should be the golden rule. If you pay taxes you should have a say. The UK sucks for not letting people who were there for 5,10,15 years vote on Brexit but they let some randoms in Malta or Cyprus. Same for anyone who doesn't have a link back to their own country for a number of years.


If you are away for let's say 20 years and you don't have any links (property, companies, alimony whatever) then why would you influence those who live there with your vote?



Some people go their whole lives without realizing the world owes you nothing.
If you're the citizen of a nation, especially if you are the citizen of only one nation, then what is decided there has a direct effect upon your welfare. It is absurd to suggest otherwise.
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Old 01.03.2019, 11:21
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...diiiid not see that one coming.
I just got an Einschreiben from the German Einwohnermeldeamt more or less giving me three options.
One, in case of a free for all brexit I need a residence permit immediately, the forms are included in the letter.
Two, In case of a nice brexit I have a three month grace period to get a residence permit, these forms are also included in the letter.
Three, get the hell out of dodge, OR ELSE...!

Whatīs it like for you pre-brexit Swissy-Brits?
LOL, "Deutsche Gründlichkeit" (German thoroughness). Of course they would grab the chance to produce as much paper as possible before anybody even knows what's happening. ROFL, this is gonna be a hightime for German bureaucrats.

I doubt the Swiss will stress you guys much before it's clear what the situation really is. In order to keep things civilized they did the "mind the gap" decision plus for once even the expats will appreciate that Switzerland does not jump up and go hysterical
I would guess in case of a hard Brexit, each residence permit will be checked individually - each at it's time of expiration. Which spreads the work over an entire year, in case of C an even longer time.

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Not being allowed to vote has always been one of my pet annoyances, as a British citizen and with the best interest in politics I canīt vote in the UK because of being away since 1972, I canīt vote in Germany as I am not German and now in a few short days I can no longer vote as a European...

Making Slammer a second class citizen, I wonder if I could sue for discrimination?
Sue whom? This problem has to be solved at the source = GB.
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If you're the citizen of a nation, especially if you are the citizen of only one nation, then what is decided there has a direct effect upon your welfare. It is absurd to suggest otherwise.
And it doesn't have an effect to the millions of EU citizens and non-EU citizens who live there and pay taxes everyday while you don't and might get kicked out the next day or lose their jobs?


Boo hoo you live in Switzerland fully privileged (your own words) and you want to affect those who will suffer the consequences first hand.


I said 20 years, it is a generous time limit, you should have had a second passport by now. If it's less than 20 years you should still vote (or if you have an active link like children living there, property, companies etc)


But sorry, being away for 42 years like Slammer and wanting to f**k up the lives of the residents of a country that you barely know anymore is plain wrong. Just wrong.


If it was me I would have let anyone vote though, all British citizens across the world (but not the random Malta/Cyprus whatevers) but ALSO everyone currently residing in the UK and paying taxes, whether they are from Germany or China. You pay tax, you get a say.
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And it doesn't have an effect to the millions of EU citizens and non-EU citizens who live there and pay taxes everyday while you don't and might get kicked out the next day or lose their jobs?


Boo hoo you live in Switzerland fully privileged (your own words) and you want to affect those who will suffer the consequences first hand.


I said 20 years, it is a generous time limit, you should have had a second passport by now. If it's less than 20 years you should still vote (or if you have an active link like children living there, property, companies etc)


But sorry, being away for 42 years like Slammer and wanting to f**k up the lives of the residents of a country that you barely know anymore is plain wrong. Just wrong.


If it was me I would have let anyone vote though, all British citizens across the world (but not the random Malta/Cyprus whatevers) but ALSO everyone currently residing in the UK and paying taxes, whether they are from Germany or China. You pay tax, you get a say.
So a stay at home mother doesn't have a say in your world?
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Re: Brexit raising its urine ugly head

Yes right twist my words now to make an invalid example out of thin air.


All British citizens and all foreign workers should count. Anyone who lives in the UK should get a say as they'll be directly affected.


Unless the mother is a non-UK benefit taker who is in the country to exploit the system I don't see how she would not be able to vote.


The 75 year old fart who lives in Zurich for 42 years though should definitely not be able to vote though.
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And it doesn't have an effect to the millions of EU citizens and non-EU citizens who live there and pay taxes everyday while you don't and might get kicked out the next day or lose their jobs?


Boo hoo you live in Switzerland fully privileged (your own words) and you want to affect those who will suffer the consequences first hand.


I said 20 years, it is a generous time limit, you should have had a second passport by now. If it's less than 20 years you should still vote (or if you have an active link like children living there, property, companies etc)


But sorry, being away for 42 years like Slammer and wanting to f**k up the lives of the residents of a country that you barely know anymore is plain wrong. Just wrong.


If it was me I would have let anyone vote though, all British citizens across the world (but not the random Malta/Cyprus whatevers) but ALSO everyone currently residing in the UK and paying taxes, whether they are from Germany or China. You pay tax, you get a say.
You don't really understand what citizenship means, do you?

Boo hoo.
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Old 01.03.2019, 11:43
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Re: Brexit raising its urine ugly head

Believe me I understand very well, being from a country that also does its best to shoot itself on the foot is very frustrating. I will bear the consequences of whatever is decided.


It's also the same here in CH. They often accuse us of not integrating well when they do not let us vote and get involved in local elections and get a say where my taxes will go. What is better integration than voting on your canton's referenda and elections? I pay taxes so I should have a say on who represents me.


But if I was 42 years away from my country I would never get involved in elections even if I could, out of principle. I would have a second passport by now.


The UK freely allows you to get dual citizenship so in 42 years I'd say you had plenty of time to get one. No reason to clinge on your British one as an excuse to have a say at their referenda.


Cypriots and Maltese people influencing the outcome of a decision that EU citizens living in the UK will bear is not only unfair, it's a travesty of democracy.



P.S I will say it again, UNLESS you have an active link there. In your case I think it's your pension, of course that's an active link and you should have a say. I think it's quite simple.
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Old 01.03.2019, 11:47
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pssst.......the World Cup doesn't cut the ice any more, they won it more times already......
Bugger off with your so called "statistics". The World Cup needs England* more than England needs the World Cup.

Now FIFA. There's an undemocratic pit of despots that ruin our lives.




* and Scotland, Wales and Norn Iron too.
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Old 01.03.2019, 11:52
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I pay taxes so I should have a say on who represents me.
Doesn't work that way in the vast majority of places around the world.

You want a vote? Then become a citizen.

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