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Old 14.03.2019, 14:30
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Re: Give them back their lives [politicization of young people]

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Old 14.03.2019, 14:36
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Re: Give them back their lives [politicization of young people]

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I think these days it is incredibly difficult for young people to form an opinion of their own
I think it is the opposite, the generation that so far communicates the most due to fast comm technology. I find them quite interestingly opinionated. And dying to opine.

I find the above opinion terribly patronizing.

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As I notice often for adults too.
The young ones don't really have time to develope their own thoughts..
That I find also terribly patronizing.

But maybe it is due to the fact I have young people sharing their opinions with me, every day. A lot. They are very motivated.
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Politics was an enormous part of my childhood. It was unavoidable where I grew up.
It was unavoidable in our living room. Every night, my dad would change out of his oily overalls and lie in the floor in front of the fire with the Lancashire Evening Post spread out in front of him...mainly to see who'd died. Then after tea, he'd spread out his Daily Telegraph whilst watching the 9 O'Clock News. The vast majority of the rows between my parents were over politics.

As for college, I was too much into music, gigs, football, getting pissed and having a good time. It was only in General Studies when anything political got a mention, then the Falklands happened.
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Old 14.03.2019, 14:46
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Why are you hating on blue eyed, blonde haired?!

I am on my cell but don't need to post pics of hitler jungen, konsomol nor trendy punks or squatters. The youth will always be interested in idealism and changing the status quo, be it political, religious, etc. I think more so more apolitical we will try to make the environment around them, paradoxically. I guess we have to strive for informing them but not recruiting them, which isn't difficult. It is good not to share personal convictions with them, it makes them more curious. They tend to give better anwers and ask better questions, too. If politics is what it takes for kids to learn to suggest an alternative before the want to negate something, so be it.
Interesting way of interpreting TobiasM's post

Wonder if anyone else felt he was hating on the kids in the Hitlerjugend.
And while <<The youth will always be interested in idealism and changing the status quo>> sounds great - the small German kids did not have a choice of joining or not. But hey, of course it's lovely to think the adults gave them the wonderful opportunity to create a new world.

You have your own way of reading posts as I notice from your comments to mine. Which is rather intriguing to me.
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They've barely got time to "impress" the curriculum into them, never mind pontificating about putting the world to rights.
And whose fault is it that they haven't got time to teach the curriculum...?

That's how it begins.
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Re: Give them back their lives [politicization of young people]

The cult of Cobyn and 5 year olds.

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Old 14.03.2019, 15:11
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Interesting way of interpreting TobiasM's post

Wonder if anyone else felt he was hating on the kids in the Hitlerjugend.
And while <<The youth will always be interested in idealism and changing the status quo>> sounds great - the small German kids did not have a choice of joining or not. But hey, of course it's lovely to think the adults gave them the wonderful opportunity to create a new world.

You have your own way of reading posts as I notice from your comments to mine. Which is rather intriguing to me.
I hope that wasn’t the impression I gave, I merely took DBs bait about the young and politics and yooful energy.

Anyway I think it’s great, I think people, especially the young should be more political and proactive, and certainly not bent to the will of any supreme leader. Like those MAGA kids or the Hitler youth who were brainwashed by their society and parents and propaganda.
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Old 14.03.2019, 15:14
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lol, Loz quoting a Guardian columnist! Lol.
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And whose fault is it that they haven't got time to teach the curriculum...?

That's how it begins.
How?

Do kids give a flying fandango that teachers haven't got enough hours in the day and the reasons for it?

If anything it will put kids off from going into the profession rather than remembering years later who was in power at the time their teacher had a little cry that she had no time to mark the spelling test, then adjusting their voting habits accordingly.
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You have your own way of reading posts..
Thank you.
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Should start with teachers impressing their world view onto their pupils.
Not going to happen.

In Belgium for example on some schools students are forced to participate in climate demonstrations, not walking along is viewed as unjustified skipping class.

Politics have declared this as perfectly fine.

Sickening methods to brainwash kids.
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Old 14.03.2019, 15:22
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That is weird!

But of course, it's the political and proactive youth and certainly not influenced by any parents.
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Old 14.03.2019, 15:25
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Not going to happen.

In Belgium for example on some schools students are forced to participate in climate demonstrations, not walking along is viewed as unjustified skipping class.

Politics have declared this as perfectly fine.

Sickening methods to brainwash kids.
This thread is starting to give me stomachaches.
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Not going to happen.

In Belgium for example on some schools students are forced to participate in climate demonstrations, not walking along is viewed as unjustified skipping class.

Politics have declared this as perfectly fine.

Sickening methods to brainwash kids.
Maybe, just maybe, this is considered too important an issue to ignore. As it has been for so long, by so many governments and industries. Nobody else is doing anything at all except some token concessions to any of the treaties that have been agreed upon in the last 30years or so.
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Old 14.03.2019, 17:16
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Not going to happen.

In Belgium for example on some schools students are forced to participate in climate demonstrations, not walking along is viewed as unjustified skipping class.

Politics have declared this as perfectly fine.

Sickening methods to brainwash kids.
Whatever teachers do is going to stick in someone's craw though, isn't it?

Shielding kids from all political views will be labelled as "snowflake" teaching. Equally, teaching them that everything is harmonious and everyone's opinion is a rainbow and valuable to society will be seen as leftie inclusive guff, just the same as denouncing either side's political views will be seen as "politicising" or "radicalising".

Your Belgium example is more likely to put kids off than indoctrinate them. It's like forcing kids to go to church for brainwashing. Normally turns 'em right off.
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Old 14.03.2019, 17:30
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Maybe, just maybe, this is considered too important an issue to ignore. As it has been for so long, by so many governments and industries. Nobody else is doing anything at all except some token concessions to any of the treaties that have been agreed upon in the last 30years or so.
Your post scares me. Forcing kids to go demonstrate an opinion (they may or not have) in public is the worst way of suppression. I would go as far as claim it is violating article 19, human rights - in a very devious way.
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Re: Give them back their lives [politicization of young people]

Well lets hope the children can see through the hypocricy of the "adults ".

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Old 14.03.2019, 17:40
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Re: Give them back their lives [politicization of young people]

IMHO, I'm all for kids getting more involved in politics.
Keeps em distracted from that eternal quest for the ultimate selfie.
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Old 14.03.2019, 17:46
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Maybe, just maybe, this is considered too important an issue to ignore. As it has been for so long, by so many governments and industries. Nobody else is doing anything at all except some token concessions to any of the treaties that have been agreed upon in the last 30years or so.
Regardless of how well it may be meant there's no reason to make participation mandatory.
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Old 14.03.2019, 18:14
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IMHO, I'm all for kids getting more involved in politics.
MeToo. They will be better at it than us. The only problem is, politics is just so boring they will stick to it only for a split second.
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