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The end is nigh.

There was an interesting report on the news yesterday…
It stated that in 2018 there was a minus of 30.000.000 tons of grain world-wide due to drought, over farming, crops grown for fuel and crops grown for meat production and of course the big one: Climate change. Either it´s a blip in global food production or the beginning of the end.
It looks like the winter of 2018/19 was far too warm and dry, in some local areas there was a lot of snow but not enough to be of much use to the water supply. There was also another report a few days earlier that areas in the north of Spain and central France are predicted to be heavily hit by drought this year. Add that to the traditional dry areas of Europe and things are not looking too good.


It puts things like the great wall of Trump or Brexit into perspective methinks.
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Old 08.04.2019, 08:28
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It puts things like the great wall of Trump or Brexit into perspective methinks.
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Old 08.04.2019, 08:42
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Re: The end is nigh.

Isn't the End this Friday?

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Old 08.04.2019, 08:47
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Isn't the End this Friday?

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Maybe, but perhaps definitely not totally sure if it could possibly happen or not.
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Deep fried insects for lunch followed by a cockroach kebab for tea it is, then!
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Re: The end is nigh.

There was still plenty of rain in 2018 but it fell mostly at the wrong time and thus didn't benefit the crops. The up side is that this is pushing up the price of grain which is good for the farmers who are still making it.

There may have to be a shift towards more drought-tolerant varieties. Or more imports from areas not so affected.
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Old 08.04.2019, 10:06
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Ja, aber:

Increasing concern over declining insect populations:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...ade-180971474/

And a more nuanced discussion:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...nderstand-why/
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and of course the big one: Climate change. Either it´s a blip in global food production or the beginning of the end.
Don't worry too much. Yes, certain places will suffer from agriculture point of view and no amount of technology can come up to save them that quickly. However, other places will flourish. Russia is already a behemoth on the world grain production scene, they are quite sophisticated and advanced. Global warming will open up millions of hectares of agriculture land. Your bread is safe
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Don't worry too much. Yes, certain places will suffer from agriculture point of view and no amount of technology can come up to save them that quickly. However, other places will flourish. Russia is already a behemoth on the world grain production scene, they are quite sophisticated and advanced. Global warming will open up millions of hectares of agriculture land. Your bread is safe
Actually Russia is melting, the permafrost is thawing out releasing gigatons of methene. Gonna get hot round here.
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Actually Russia is melting, the permafrost is thawing out releasing gigatons of methene. Gonna get hot round here.
Methene is another name for methylene.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Methene

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_(compound)

and doesn't even get a mention on Wikipedia's article on greenhouse gases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas

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Methene is another name for methylene.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Methene

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_(compound)

and doesn't even get a mention on Wikipedia's article on greenhouse gases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas

Actually it does, if you read a bit further down, it also says that methane is a contributor to ozone, sooooo, we will broil to death but we won´t get sunburn.
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There was an interesting report on the news yesterday…
It stated that in 2018 there was a minus of 30.000.000 tons of grain world-wide due to drought, over farming, crops grown for fuel and crops grown for meat production and of course the big one: Climate change. Either it´s a blip in global food production or the beginning of the end.
It looks like the winter of 2018/19 was far too warm and dry, in some local areas there was a lot of snow but not enough to be of much use to the water supply. There was also another report a few days earlier that areas in the north of Spain and central France are predicted to be heavily hit by drought this year. Add that to the traditional dry areas of Europe and things are not looking too good.


It puts things like the great wall of Trump or Brexit into perspective methinks.

Well, just to bring things a bit more into perspective for you.
Remember those wonderful diving trips you did? How were the corals then, colourful or dead (bleached). As a result, great marine life or not? We are an Ocean planet - 70% of our Earth is water.

What you've described according to this article is also about what might happen to the grains that we eat, such as rice, basic sustainable foods etc.

Friday thread or not? Today yes, tomorrow in a few decades?

I find the humour in these posts as well, don't doubt that. And I also studied Computer Science in times that eased our conscience where we asked "but what will people do?" and were met with the answer "they'll have more free-time!!!". Reality today is unemployment.

Hopefully we've learned from our mistakes when it comes to this topic.
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Well, just to bring things a bit more into perspective for you.
Remember that wonderful diving you did off Malta? (Gibralter?) How were the corals then, colourful or dead (bleached). As a result, great marine life or not?

Well, that's what might happen according to this article to the grains that we eat, such as rice, basic sustainable foods etc.

Friday thread or not? Today yes, tomorrow in a few decades?

I find the humour in these posts as well, don't doubt that. And I also studied Computer Science in times that eased our conscience where we asked "but what will people do?" and were met with the answer "they'll have more free-time!!!". Reality today is unemployment.

Hopefully we've learned from our mistakes when it comes to this topic.
The problem with reports like the one on Tagesschau yesterday is how to interpretate them. Evidently something is going on enough to make it a news worthy item but if you cry wolf too soon and too often then you get a kind of not-that-again mentality, if you cry wolf too late then you are fornicated. At the moment there is nothing we can do and what will happen will happen and we are now just along for the ride.
The corals in the med seem to be doing alright, although the Maltese ones got a right hammering from the strongest Grigale for over 50 years. Having said that there has been a new reef found off the coast of Puglia, totally pristine and as yet not fully charted.
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