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Bombing in Sri Lanka

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Old 21.04.2019, 17:36
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Awful, awful business; extreme condolences and sympathy for victims and families.

But who?; Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country - Buddhists in suicide vests does not compute, oder?
What horrible perversions are practised in the name of religion! Killing innocent people to gain points with your invisible friend........
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Awful, awful business; extreme condolences and sympathy for victims and families.

But who?; Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country - Buddhists in suicide vests does not compute, oder?
Buddhist majority could be, but they have a group of very hardlined buddhists and the country has a violent past and clashes and attacks are very regular among different groups are very regular, it was only a year ago that buddhists attacked 4 Mosque's and 37 houses and 46 shops owned by muslims. And both the buddhists as the muslims don't like the Christians and tourists to which today's attack was aimed.

This attack never was a question of "will it happen" but only a question of "when and how".
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Old 21.04.2019, 18:38
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Awful, awful business; extreme condolences and sympathy for victims and families.

But who?; Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country - Buddhists in suicide vests does not compute, oder?
What horrible perversions are practised in the name of religion! Killing innocent people to gain points with your invisible friend........
Suicide bombing is not new to Sri Lanka. It was a favourite practice of the Tamil Tigers.
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Old 21.04.2019, 18:49
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Suicide bombing is not new to Sri Lanka. It was a favourite practice of the Tamil Tigers.
True but they are/were Hindu!
Anyway my point remains "Killing innocent people to gain points with your invisible friend."
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Old 21.04.2019, 19:03
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True but they are/were Hindu!
Anyway my point remains "Killing innocent people to gain points with your invisible friend."
Not really.
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Old 21.04.2019, 20:43
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Awful, awful business; extreme condolences and sympathy for victims and families.

But who?; Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country - Buddhists in suicide vests does not compute, oder?
What horrible perversions are practised in the name of religion! Killing innocent people to gain points with your invisible friend........
Marton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...n_in_Sri_Lanka

I agree, religion is a curse on the world. The sooner people stop believing in fairy stories the better for everyone.

But sadly, given human nature we'd probably just find/invent something else to fight over.
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Old 21.04.2019, 20:51
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No but I didn´t want to open a new thread. The effect unfortunately is similar.

OK now?
I'd have opened another thread to be honest. All this does is blur the lines further on an already murky thread between mass shootings, gun crime, terrorist attacks and religious hate crime.

The only thing I would say this attack has that is relevant to the last mass shooting is the difference in reaction to a hate crime targeting a specific religious group in a first world country to that taking place in a third world country.
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Old 23.04.2019, 10:32
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Oh, Sri Lanka's defence minister has said that the bombings were carried out in response to the Christchurch attack.
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Old 23.04.2019, 12:28
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Suicide bombing is not new to Sri Lanka. It was a favourite practice of the Tamil Tigers.

who in turn got adopted by CH en masse, go figure.
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The only thing I would say this attack has that is relevant to the last mass shooting is the difference in reaction to a hate crime targeting a specific religious group in a first world country to that taking place in a third world country.
I see it more as a consequence of distance, cultural and geographical.

See the Christchurch attack for example, the echo was much stronger in the UK than in the German speaking countries. And did you even know there was a terror attack in Tokyo on New Year's day?
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Re: Bombing in Sri Lanka

It was with a bit of a shock that I got my hands on the 20minutes this morning. Somehow the news escaped me during the weekend.

Considering I am in the process of booking holidays to Sri Lanka, it's putting me on edge. Not sure if I should take the risk or just plan something else. Was looking forward to ticking it off the bucket list.

On one hand I can go with the thought that now security is doubled and therefore safer, on the other hand I have the thought that the idiots that caused this might try again because it was so "successful".

Well, crap. The older I get the angrier I get with organised religion.
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Old 23.04.2019, 15:28
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Considering I am in the process of booking holidays to Sri Lanka, it's putting me on edge. Not sure if I should take the risk or just plan something else. Was looking forward to ticking it off the bucket list.

On one hand I can go with the thought that now security is doubled and therefore safer, on the other hand I have the thought that the idiots that caused this might try again because it was so "successful".
I understand the emotional reaction, it's of course very human, but I don't think it's a real concern. Going by that logic, you couldn't go to the UK, Spain, Germany, France, of course the US and myriad of other places.

For some reason I have bad timing as I've been in more than one country as such terror attacks happened (including 9/11) and/or shortly after, in and ex-Europe. I didn't feel unsafe in any of them. OK after 9/11 I was somewhat uneasy, but given it was one of the first major Islamic attacks in the West, that probably made sense.

Also, terrorism's main goal is to, well, spread fear. Best to not give in to that. Again, I understand the emotional response, it's just human, but don't think it's really necessary.
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Oh, Sri Lanka's defence minister has said that the bombings were carried out in response to the Christchurch attack.
The defence minister is a complete incompetent idiot. The Government there should step down.
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I understand the emotional reaction, it's of course very human, but I don't think it's a real concern. Going by that logic, you couldn't go to the UK, Spain, Germany, France, of course the US and myriad of other places.
WTF are you talking about it's not even remotely the same logic. If mass bombing attacks happen VERY RECENTLY in a country with lower security and more basic infrastructure then you basically should not go. The coutry will be on high alert for a while and we do not know for sure if a follow-up attack will take place or not within the next couple of months. Why would you put yourself at risk when literally entire families of both locals and tourists have been wiped out?
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WTF are you talking about it's not even remotely the same logic. If mass bombing attacks happen VERY RECENTLY in a country with lower security and more basic infrastructure then you basically should not go. The coutry will be on high alert for a while and we do not know for sure if a follow-up attack will take place or not within the next couple of months. Why would you put yourself at risk when literally entire families of both locals and tourists have been wiped out?
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WTF are you talking about it's not even remotely the same logic. If mass bombing attacks happen VERY RECENTLY in a country with lower security and more basic infrastructure then you basically should not go. The coutry will be on high alert for a while and we do not know for sure if a follow-up attack will take place or not within the next couple of months. Why would you put yourself at risk when literally entire families of both locals and tourists have been wiped out?
So your logic is that because Sri Lanka (presumably) has worse infrastructure and security than the West, the chance of a terrorist attack are higher? Oh yeah sure, that explains the dozens of attacks in Europe then. Or have you forgotten about Manchester, Barcelona, Brussels or Nice, all of which took place in the last 2-3 years, all of which killed up to 100 people each and injured several hundred? And that's just those that are islamic in nature, let's not even go into the discussion about how terrorist attacks in Europe in particular are by no means new, yet very few people would consider not going on a weekend trip to London for fear of some terrorist attack, not to mention that chances of dying in an attack are statistically highly unlikely. I guess that is WTF I'm talking about.
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So your logic is that because Sri Lanka (presumably) has worse infrastructure and security than the West, the chance of a terrorist attack are higher? Oh yeah sure, that explains the dozens of attacks in Europe then. Or have you forgotten about Manchester, Barcelona, Brussels or Nice, all of which took place in the last 2-3 years, all of which killed up to 100 people each and injured several hundred? And that's just those that are islamic in nature, let's not even go into the discussion about how terrorist attacks in Europe in particular are by no means new, yet very few people would consider not going on a weekend trip to London for fear of some terrorist attack, not to mention that chances of dying in an attack are statistically highly unlikely. I guess that is WTF I'm talking about.
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So your logic is that because Sri Lanka (presumably) has worse infrastructure and security than the West, the chance of a terrorist attack are higher? Oh yeah sure, that explains the dozens of attacks in Europe then. Or have you forgotten about Manchester, Barcelona, Brussels or Nice, all of which took place in the last 2-3 years, all of which killed up to 100 people each and injured several hundred? And that's just those that are islamic in nature, let's not even go into the discussion about how terrorist attacks in Europe in particular are by no means new, yet very few people would consider not going on a weekend trip to London for fear of some terrorist attack, not to mention that chances of dying in an attack are statistically highly unlikely. I guess that is WTF I'm talking about.
My logic is that a terrorist attack HAS LITERALLY JUST OCCURRED KILLING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE and there are official warnings that it MAY STILL HAPPEN AGAIN SOON. If that is not reason enough by your (shaky) standards to not travel to this country as a tourist in the near future then... wow...

And my comment about the lesser security and infrastructure of the country relates simply to the increased likelihood and impact of such attacks when they happen.

I would have assumed that most people would consider all of this common sense, but yeah... I guess the travel warnings now in place kind of confirm that.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/sri-lanka

https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-s...a/travel-alert

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My logic is that a terrorist attack HAS LITERALLY JUST OCCURRED KILLING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE and there are official warnings that it MAY STILL HAPPEN AGAIN SOON. If that is not logical reason enough by your (shaky) standards to not travel to this country in the near future then... wow...
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