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Re: UK prime minister resigns

Why didn't she resign before the European Parliament elections? It could have helped her party.
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Old 27.05.2019, 09:05
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Here's the Director General of UK Steel disputing claims made by Farage, BoJo and others that troubled British Steel
would be better off in a Brexit Britain trading under WTO rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ays-trade-body
read up on 'british' steel its not british, it was bought from tata for a quid by an asset stripper, sorry, assent management company, who then stripped it, made a large fortune out of it and have now bankrupt it, they would have done the same regardless of brexit, wto, time of day. Its their standard mo.
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Old 27.05.2019, 09:45
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

According to Private Eye, what pushed British Steel over the edge was having to pay for extra carbon credits, due to Brexit being extended.

But it was pretty much doomed anyway.
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Old 27.05.2019, 12:01
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According to Private Eye, what pushed British Steel over the edge was having to pay for extra carbon credits, due to Brexit being extended.

But it was pretty much doomed anyway.
they had to buy carbon credit because the first thing the asset strippers did was sell their carbon credits
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Old 27.05.2019, 17:41
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The people have spoken - I hope the government finally gets it now and lets the EU know that they want to leave instantly and without a treaty.

Def no need for another vote, that’s for sure.
The people can speak as often as they like. But in a parliamentary democracy the only vote that counts is their vote in a GE. They were asked after the last referendum to elect a parliament to carry out that wish and instead they elected a hung and surprise surprise that has not worked out.

And at the next GE I say it is a fair bet that they will elect an even more grid locked parliament.
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Old 27.05.2019, 19:29
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The people can speak as often as they like. But in a parliamentary democracy the only vote that counts is their vote in a GE. They were asked after the last referendum to elect a parliament to carry out that wish and instead they elected a hung and surprise surprise that has not worked out.

And at the next GE I say it is a fair bet that they will elect an even more grid locked parliament.
I suppose you could say that the dumbing down of the population worked. Seems ideocracy is no longer a movie but a documentary.
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Old 27.05.2019, 20:43
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I suppose you could say that the dumbing down of the population worked. Seems ideocracy is no longer a movie but a documentary.
Said the guy who can't even spell it, maybe you belong there.
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Old 28.05.2019, 06:07
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Said the guy who can't even spell it, maybe you belong there.
Ah! Another bored Grammar Nazi, just what the world needs.
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Old 28.05.2019, 08:11
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

Here's a thought - if a General Election is called, whats to stop the Brexit Party fielding Ann Widdecombe
as Queen Boediccia on her War Chariot leading her Brexiteer Iceni tribe against the Roman ( EU ) Army.
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Old 28.05.2019, 08:53
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Here's a thought - if a General Election is called, whats to stop the Brexit Party fielding Ann Widdecombe
as Queen Boediccia on her War Chariot leading her Brexiteer Iceni tribe against the Roman ( EU ) Army.
A nice analogue indeed. Something the Brexiteers could have used for their Propaganda.
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Old 28.05.2019, 09:42
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I rather see the UK leave than the EU change its core concept because you guys dont like it.
A lot of other people don't like it either, and indeed do want to change it.
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Old 28.05.2019, 09:44
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Can you for a minute imagine the Irish/Danish/French head of government urging their voters to vote against their best interests...
er, yes. Have you not been following the news lately?
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Old 28.05.2019, 09:50
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There’s one big difference: the others aren’t leaving.
because they are either

1) getting out more than they are putting in

or

2) in it because of some dream of imperialist grandeur.

Maybe the Uk is the only country that ticked neither of those boxes, or at least that has got as far as understanding that it ticks neither of those boxes.
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Old 28.05.2019, 11:09
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Maybe the Uk is the only country that ticked neither of those boxes, or at least that has got as ofar as understanding that it ticks neither of those boxes.
Or that they fail to appreciate just how weak a position they will be in when they walk away from trade agreements covering 90% of their exports and give up pasporting of financial services, among other things.

The UK economy is big enough to be of interest to all the major trading blocks, but small enough to always be the junior partner in all such negotiations. They have experienced negotiations with one trading block, they can see the negotiation objectives of the US, and they have a much poorer offer to replace the open skies agreement from the US. And still they continue to believe they can dictate terms...
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

I really do not understand this harsh and non-cooperative attitude of the EU.
When the UK has incorporated Europe into the British Empire, we granted to them so many rights and privileges, e.g. we let them introduce their own "Euro" currency, we let them do this "Schengen" thing and then they still have not adapted to our 3 pin electric plugs and drive on the wrong side of the road, so it is better we let them go.
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I really do not understand this harsh and non-cooperative attitude of the EU.
The EU is a gigantic Ponzi scheme. Being non-cooperative is essential to continuing the fraud.
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Old 29.05.2019, 07:50
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The EU is a gigantic Ponzi scheme. Being non-cooperative is essential to continuing the fraud.
You are obviously someone who does not let facts interfere with your opinions as evident from your posting history. So we’ll leave you to it.
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

So when is the vote for the new Conservative leader?
I really really hope it's Boris.
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Old 29.05.2019, 11:00
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So when is the vote for the new Conservative leader?
I really really hope it's Boris.
Just some thoughts.

If there is going to be a general election any time soon, which I would say is likely, the Tory party is going to suffer a heavy defeat. The strategists in the party are probably already battoning the hatches, preparing for a long time in opposition and their idea of success is if they can at least hold some ground in their core areas so as not to be wiped out completely.That's probably all they're wishing for right now.

As a leader, Boris ticks all those boxes. He would probably make a good opposition leader because of his direct (and sometimes even honest style) his ability to give credit where credis due, deflect criticism, think on his feet and to treat any debate like an intellectual rugger scrum. The whole few against many thing would bring out the best in him. Whoever would be PM againt his opposition would be in for some tough soundbytes that would feed into the whole Boris machine, that would prime the party for its slow return to power.
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Old 29.05.2019, 11:33
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

I don't see there being a general election. It would be a blood bath for the Tories and turkeys don't vote for Christmas
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