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So when is the vote for the new Conservative leader?
I really really hope it's Boris.
He's just been summonsed to court.

http://news.sky.com/story/boris-john...nduct-11730747
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This is the opening of Pandora’s box. Be careful what you wish for folks.
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

What's your thinking Loz?

I'm curious how this will unfold / be stifled / become a storm in a tea cup. I don't see BoJo as a truly Machiavellian character, but I do believe that he has ambitions beyond his natural capabilities and lacks integrity which, to my mind, makes him a useful fall guy. We shall see....
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Old 29.05.2019, 13:59
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What's your thinking Loz?
Perhaps Loz is concerned that if Pandora's box gets opened again, hope will also escape.
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What's your thinking Loz?

I'm curious how this will unfold / be stifled / become a storm in a tea cup. I don't see BoJo as a truly Machiavellian character, but I do believe that he has ambitions beyond his natural capabilities and lacks integrity which, to my mind, makes him a useful fall guy. We shall see....
It will get thrown out eventually I’m sure, but you have to look at the wider picture. A crowd funded private prosecution is attempting to use criminal proceedings to bring charges against a politician for making a political statement.
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Old 29.05.2019, 14:12
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What's your thinking Loz?

I'm curious how this will unfold / be stifled / become a storm in a tea cup. I don't see BoJo as a truly Machiavellian character, but I do believe that he has ambitions beyond his natural capabilities and lacks integrity which, to my mind, makes him a useful fall guy. We shall see....
Makes me a bit uncomfortable too, really. He's being hauled before a criminal court, i.e. theoretically its quite serious. Its also at the behest of one person who got 200k raised via crowdfunding to bring the prosecution.

I dont think anything would actually come of it, but is a bit of a slippery slope. If you are open to a criminal investigation if you knowingly lie to someone then I would think about half of the British population is open to conviction having at some time or another lied concerning a topic.

Does it mean if on Question time on thursday any one of the panel gets anything wrong, figures wise, we can demand a criminal prosecution ? I dont like it...

Note: I consider Boris Johnson to be the most lying, vindictive and untrustwothy politician in the UK, even nosing ahead of Corbyn.
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Old 29.05.2019, 14:16
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"I admit that I was wrong. It's only 260 million per week".
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Old 29.05.2019, 14:25
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

It could set a legal precedent which will enchance the accountability of British politicians in the future. Good thing or bad? I reckon many will say that we already have the mechanisms to hold our politicians to account, and that the main one is the ballot box.

I can't get away from his integrity issues again. We all know people like that, but in everyday life we usually fob it off and describe them as "He's ok but he's a bit of a dick." Someone you'd happily have a pint with, but not someone you'd trust to invest your life savings, and you wouldn't want your daughter to be romantically involved with them.

If found guilty, what would the sentence be? I reckon he should spend the rest of his days walking around with a 20ft blue neon sign over his head that says 'Buyer Beware!', or to satisfy his mate Jacob R-M, 'Caveat Emptor'.
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Old 29.05.2019, 14:32
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Re: UK prime minister resigns

it wasn't a little white lie, he put it on the side of a bus ffs, it was a huge out and out lie, totally untrue and yes, he should be held to account over it

politics has gone so far into the gutter they are saying more and more outrageous crap to get themselves elected, this HAS to stop, whats next? Nigel Farage promises everyone 20k a year if his party wins the next election?? then gets in and says, oh, I was only kidding, thought you knew.*


* and I can really see this kind of promise being made in the not too distant future.
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Old 29.05.2019, 14:44
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it wasn't a little white lie, he put it on the side of a bus ffs, it was a huge out and out lie, totally untrue and yes, he should be held to account over it

politics has gone so far into the gutter they are saying more and more outrageous crap to get themselves elected, this HAS to stop, whats next? Nigel Farage promises everyone 20k a year if his party wins the next election?? then gets in and says, oh, I was only kidding, thought you knew.*


* and I can really see this kind of promise being made in the not too distant future.
This is basically what Labour did at the last election. They strongly implied they would wipe out existing student debt and a whole host of other policies. They knew they would never win so would never have to come good on it, but they did win a load of new seats and a lot of the young vote.
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it wasn't a little white lie, he put it on the side of a bus ffs, it was a huge out and out lie, totally untrue and yes, he should be held to account over it

politics has gone so far into the gutter they are saying more and more outrageous crap to get themselves elected, this HAS to stop, whats next? Nigel Farage promises everyone 20k a year if his party wins the next election?? then gets in and says, oh, I was only kidding, thought you knew.*


* and I can really see this kind of promise being made in the not too distant future.
In that case I want George Osbourne to stand trial because he lied when he said there would be an emergency budget in the event of a vote for Brexit. And Mark Carney too as he said there would be an immediate drop in GDP of 8%. Michael Give should also get up before the beak because he was stood right next to Boris when that bus was launched.

See how it works yet?
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Old 29.05.2019, 16:18
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In that case I want George Osbourne to stand trial because he lied when he said there would be an emergency budget in the event of a vote for Brexit. And Mark Carney too as he said there would be an immediate drop in GDP of 8%. Michael Give should also get up before the beak because he was stood right next to Boris when that bus was launched.

See how it works yet?
That's not how any of this works.

Those were predictions for the future. What Boris said he said as fact
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In that case I want George Osbourne to stand trial because he lied when he said there would be an emergency budget in the event of a vote for Brexit. And Mark Carney too as he said there would be an immediate drop in GDP of 8%. Michael Give should also get up before the beak because he was stood right next to Boris when that bus was launched.

See how it works yet?
In fact George can be up for multiple counts of fraud because he also said each family would be GBP4300 worse off if we brexit was voted for.

We may as well just put the whole government in prison, it might be simpler.
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That's not how any of this works.

Those were predictions for the future. What Boris said he said as fact
And he was right, he’ll just say he quoted the gross figure.
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Old 29.05.2019, 16:33
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And he was right, he’ll just say he quoted the gross figure.
The bus said we send the EU 350 million a week. We don't.

He then changed it slightly post referendum to say we will have full control of an extra 350 million a week

How can we have full control over something that didn't happen?

If bread is £1 a loaf but discounted to 50p, I only send Tesco 50p. The £1 is never spent on the bread.
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Sweetness of marriage is having your spouse be the same man you married ,while courtship and after marriage.we have been married for 7, but it got more interesting when he comes back home very late than usual.i decided to speak with him in order to know what has been wrong with him or where i have gone wrong.several persuasion proved abortive, this had me down at work and home.From that point i knew something was wrong,all attempt to know who he was seeing outside wasn’t successful, this got me sick and i decided to go for a divorce but my attorney needed some sought of evidence, so my friend suggested this dude THOMASHACKER15 AT GMAIL to help me hack my husbands phone. I discovered William has been cheating on me for years ! To top that he has 3 children I don’t know of. I sent him away from my house but the children keep asking about their father. I really don’t know what to do
but what about the 350 million ?
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It will get thrown out eventually I’m sure, but you have to look at the wider picture. A crowd funded private prosecution is attempting to use criminal proceedings to bring charges against a politician for making a political statement.
And this could easily backfire. Think of the precedent it is creating. Not to mention the cloak of victim hood.

To long for the days that the best place to defeat unloved politicians was at the ballot box.
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And anyway, just imagine, Boris standing in front of a court of law with his mis-buttoned shirt and quoting Aristotle and Churchill. Prime YouTube material. It would be a gift for him.
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And anyway, just imagine, Boris standing in front of a court of law with his mis-buttoned shirt and quoting Aristotle and Churchill. Prime YouTube material. It would be a gift for him.
I can just picture the scene now with Bojo appearing before the dock with Jacob Rees-Mogg in attendance,
together with all those dour faced politicians from the ERG like Bill Cash, available as character witnesses.

Outside the court Ann Widecombe will be mounted upon her War Chariot as Queen Boudicca, ready to do
battle with anyone who questions Bojo's Brexit claims or integrity; meanwhile Nigel Farage will also be
outside ready to do business, dressed as always like your typical second hand Car Salesman.
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but what about the 350 million ?
The only link I can think of is she was married to a man who fathered a child outside of the marriage.
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