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Tornados in USA

One sees all these films about the latest tornado destruction in USA. Do they build fairly flimsy houses? They seem to blown away so easily. Do these people have house insurance for such damage?
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Re: Tornados in USA

Yes they can insure such, yes they build a lot of "flimsy" houses.

This is btw how not so flimsy houses look like after a very heavy windburst with less force than a typical devastating tornado:





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Old 29.05.2019, 19:17
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Re: Tornados in USA

An F3 tornado (the second highest level) that occurred recently has winds that run at 270 - 330 kph ! It will take down just about anything that it touches or comes close to.

But yes, wooden homes and brick buildings will come down very easily even at F2 levels (180 - 250 kph) or lower.

Hurricane Lotard (December 1999) had winds of 250 kph at higher levels in the pre-alps and it took out mature trees like they were tooth picks.
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Re: Tornados in USA

If you have never been in a tornado - and I truly hope y'all never have that bad luck - you have no idea of the sheer force of nature.

Tornados are utterly terrifying.

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Just to be pedantic: As always, trying to stuff the US into a one-size-fits-all frame paints a highly inaccurate picture.

We build all sorts of houses in the US - from flimsy to rock solid and everything in between. My current Swiss house, built in the 1980s, is but a bundle of straw compared to my 1920s Chicagoland fortress.

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But I doubt even my fortress could have withstood a direct tornado touchdown. Luckily it was never put to the test... but we had plenty of close shaves.
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If you have never been in a tornado - and I truly hope y'all never have that bad luck - you have no idea of the sheer force of nature.

Tornados are utterly terrifying.

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Just to be pedantic: As always, trying to stuff the US into a one-size-fits-all frame paints a highly inaccurate picture.

We build all sorts of houses in the US - from flimsy to rock solid and everything in between. My current Swiss house, built in the 1980s, is but a bundle of straw compared to my 1920s Chicagoland fortress.

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But I doubt even my fortress could have withstood a direct tornado touchdown. Luckily it was never put to the test... but we had plenty of close shaves.
Traditionally people build houses with the materials on hand. Which is why the clay filled Netherlands used so many bricks, and why regions of the US and Scandinavia use so much wood. Switzerland loves concrete these days, and I admit my building will easily stand against a tornado (40cm concrete walls), but no window, door or roof will remain in place, and water and wind will wreck everything inside. All it takes is that one storm or wind burst that happens so rarely that we don't build for it, but no reason it would not happen this summer.
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Houses in my state (Oklahoma) build timber frame mostly. The best design would probably be a round house or upside down bowl house, but they've never caught on.
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If you have never been in a tornado - and I truly hope y'all never have that bad luck - you have no idea of the sheer force of nature.

Tornados are utterly terrifying.
Yes! I do agree.

https://youtu.be/RQWSh7Db-_E
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Yes they can insure such, yes they build a lot of "flimsy" houses.

This is btw how not so flimsy houses look like after a very heavy windburst with less force than a typical devastating tornado:
Are lampposts in the NL bent? Certainly that's not the storms' work, or is it?
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Are lampposts in the NL bent? Certainly that's not the storms' work, or is it?
There is and always has been a huge range of different poles used, some are bent. But the one in the picture must have taken a hit from the wind, rubbish or whatever. if I compare it with the one in the background of this picture which seems to be straight.

(to the left in the background.)
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Re: Tornados in USA

Tricht ? Grew up 7km from there...
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One sees all these films about the latest tornado destruction in USA. Do they build fairly flimsy houses? They seem to blown away so easily. Do these people have house insurance for such damage?
You say flimsy, but powerful tornados can have very high wind speeds. This EF4 one had wind speeds of 170mph. Yes, mph - that's 273kph.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...al-us/70008386

That'll damage strongly built structures, never mind the type of houses built in the Midwest.
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