Doing it for money makes one a hooker.

They wanted the money, and paid the price.

Sort of a modern Roman Polanski.

He's not the first, and certainly not the last.

Tom

I expect the Prince Andrew connection will be brushed under the carpet because of his status as the Queen's son. It was in the news last week Epstein was known to have loaned money to Andrew's ex Fergie so she could pay off some debts a few years back. Andrew and Fergie are involved with some very rich and dubious characters, but get away with it because he is the Queen's favourite son.

It's been alleged for years Philip isn't his dad, and tbh he doesn't look like any of his siblings.

Andrew is a petulant brat. Always with a face like thunder. Charles will kick him to the side once he is King. The bitterness party will begin then, lol.

Saw in the papers he and Fergie are getting back together. There must be some more Epstein scandal brewing we have yet to hear about.

Tom

The sordid details about Andy!

https://www.insider.com/jeffrey-epst...-puppet-2019-8

Rich, ok.
Underage, ok
Hookers, probably not in the sense you think, grooming is probably closer

So who is going to brush it under the carpet, not the Americans, that’s for sure


You saying the Queen slept around.....Philip, sure he did/does but Queenie, i think not !

Children, preyed upon and coerced.

This is a long read, but it’s enlightening.....

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...220097825.html

From the article linked by edot (with emphasis added by me):

"Epstein admitted to committing only one offense against one underage girl, who was labeled a prostitute, even though she was 14, which is well under the age of consent — 18 in Florida.

“She was taken advantage of twice — first by Epstein, and then by the criminal justice system that labeled a 14-year-old girl as a prostitute,’’ said Spencer Kuvin, the lawyer who represented the girl.

“It’s just outrageous how they minimized his crimes and devalued his victims by calling them prostitutes,’’ said Yasmin Vafa, a human rights attorney and executive director of Rights4Girls, which is working to end the sexual exploitation of girls and young women.

“There is no such thing as a child prostitute. Under federal law, it’s called child sex trafficking — whether Epstein pimped them out to others or not. It’s still a commercial sex act — and he could have been jailed for the rest of his life under federal law,” she said.

There is here, legal age for prostitution in CH is 16.

Tom

Yes, Tom, on this point you are right. It is a tragedy that the laws in Switzerland allow the exploitation of the young.

As I understand it, when the 14-year-old was performing sexual acts with Epstein, (for which he went to prison for a ridiculously brief time, in the most unusual legal deal set out in the article edot linked) she was below the legal age of consent in that jurisdiction, let alone of prostitution.

EDIT: Please see correction about age of prostitutes in Switzerland, thanks to Kittster's post 53, below.

Your point?

Actually, they cracked down on that a few years ago

Best you change your habits Tom

Thank you, Kittster. Yes, you are right.

Here is the explanation of the Swiss law (from 1st July 2014 onwards), in German, French and Italian, that anyone making use of the services of a prostitute who is aged between 16 and 18 is committing a punishable act.

https://www.admin.ch/gov/de/start/do...-id-52245.html
https://www.admin.ch/gov/fr/accueil/...-id-52245.html
https://www.admin.ch/gov/it/pagina-i...-id-52245.html

So was there any camera surveillance of Epstein in his cell ? Apparently not! It's the US system working at it's best. US-4'th world country!

Tom, you know the mods are cracking down on trolling...

That there is nothing he won't excuse if perpetrated by a rich white man.

As far as I recall, the law was passed but has yet to be implemented.

Tom

And drive-by groaning