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......I don't get it. I look at her as the voice of today's youth but is it really? Anyway, I personally admire her and she has my full support.
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Yes no doubt if she was an aristo or a royal like Lady Diana Spencer who became Princess Diana
and campaigned for a worldwide ban on Land Mines, she would get no complaints.

Or a Pop Star like Bob Geldoff of The Boomtown Rats, who took it upon himself to raise awareness
of the Ethiopian Famine in Africa, with the massive fundraising Live Aid concerts back in 1985, again
there would be no complaints.
Ahhh, no drawer for Greta yet? How inacceptable is that!

It's definitely Greta's voice. Anyone else should use their own voice. She definitely makes herself being heard, I'm pleased for her.
There is Greta who goes out and does something for what she believes in and there are those millions who sit on the sofa, wasting their time trying to figure out how to judge her. Gee.
If it must be a drawer - give her her own. Have an opinion on what she says, not who she might or might not be would be a thing. imho.
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It's amazing how many people don't like her. Again and again I hear the argument...

1. I'm doing the best I can to recycle and help the climate. She's preaching to the wrong people.

2. She should be in school.

3. She's always so angry.

4. She preaches water and drinks wine.

5. She hasn't changed anything in her plight for progress

I don't get it. I look at her as the voice of today's youth but is it really? Anyway, I personally admire her and she has my full support.
I just find the whole situation bemusing, mainly on behalf of how counterproductive her campaign is to fighting climate change. You can only push so hard on a spring before it pushes back, and that's what she's doing every time she blames people of my generation for her struggle.

She says that we stole her childhood, well I wouldn't mind having swapped my childhood for hers! She may have learned a thing or two about sustainability had she been brought up in a tiny terraced house, where if we were cold we were told to grab a blanket or put on another jumper. Where we shared clothes and bathwater. Or where we had to return our old glass milk bottles. We didn't take 15 million pound yachts (with back up diesel motor) across to the US, we went to Butlins! None of this was due to having any regard for the environment, but basically because my parents didn't have much money.
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She may have learned a thing or two about sustainability had she been brought up in a tiny terraced house, where if we were cold we were told to grab a blanket or put on another jumper. Where we shared clothes and bathwater. Or where we had to return our old glass milk bottles. We didn't take 15 million pound yachts (with back up diesel motor) across to the US, we went to Butlins! None of this was due to having any regard for the environment, but basically because my parents didn't have much money.
I think all of that was true for most people in the U.K. - in a bigger house you were even colder than in a small one and one jumper would not have sufficed.

Everyone returned their milk bottles - that was a good thing and wearing hand-me downs was normal too - our kids still do that now and the younger two often share a bath.

I can't say I went to Butlins though!
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I just find the whole situation bemusing, mainly on behalf of how counterproductive her campaign is to fighting climate change. You can only push so hard on a spring before it pushes back, and that's what she's doing every time she blames people of my generation for her struggle.

She says that we stole her childhood, well I wouldn't mind having swapped my childhood for hers! She may have learned a thing or two about sustainability had she been brought up in a tiny terraced house, where if we were cold we were told to grab a blanket or put on another jumper. Where we shared clothes and bathwater. Or where we had to return our old glass milk bottles. We didn't take 15 million pound yachts (with back up diesel motor) across to the US, we went to Butlins! None of this was due to having any regard for the environment, but basically because my parents didn't have much money.
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Re: Climate change/Greta Thunberg [merged threads]

After the Europeans bitching about and condemning the people in countries where they chop down the rainforest all year long, they now log thousands and thousands of firs to turn them into Christmas trees for a day or two.

I was kind of sad - when passing the rows of them outside Migros - to think that most of them won't even make it into a living room.
Imagine how much fresh air they could have produced being left in the ground.

Priorities, eih?

January 1st the bitching about those bastards ruining the rainforest will resume. Until then, toodle-pip!.
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Re: Climate change/Greta Thunberg [merged threads]

Have briefly skimmed through all the posts on this thread, and have to say that it’s very sad.

You should really inform yourselves before commenting.
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Interesting article on her.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50901789

If Dad had pointed her in a different direction ....

Sadly, she'll eventually have to start earning a living when she's old enough and with no qualifications how is that going to work out?

And I wish someone would tell her how much pollution making all those solar panels for the boat she sailed on created.
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Interesting article on her.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50901789

If Dad had pointed her in a different direction ....

Sadly, she'll eventually have to start earning a living when she's old enough and with no qualifications how is that going to work out?

And I wish someone would tell her how much pollution making all those solar panels for the boat she sailed on created.
Or she becomes a full time activist living by independent means, crowd funded by Extinction Rebellion
and a host of other environmental acolytes and their supporters. The environment issue ( at this rate )
is likely to take decades to sort out satisfactorily.
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After the Europeans bitching about and condemning the people in countries where they chop down the rainforest all year long, they now log thousands and thousands of firs to turn them into Christmas trees for a day or two.

I was kind of sad - when passing the rows of them outside Migros - to think that most of them won't even make it into a living room.
Imagine how much fresh air they could have produced being left in the ground.

Priorities, eih?

January 1st the bitching about those bastards ruining the rainforest will resume. Until then, toodle-pip!.
True, but the christmas trees are grown for exactly that use, they are not Ur-wald trees that are cut, Odin will be pleased.
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After the Europeans bitching about and condemning the people in countries where they chop down the rainforest all year long, they now log thousands and thousands of firs to turn them into Christmas trees for a day or two.
They are farmed and harvested, same as brocoli.

They are not logged.

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True, but the christmas trees are grown for exactly that use, they are not Ur-wald trees that are cut, Odin will be pleased.
Yeah, yeah, I know this theory, from "Weinbergschnecken" (apple snail or what ever other name they're called in English too). They are protected. When they're bred in farms they are okay to be eaten.

I wonder: If a bred apple snail manages to escape does it then become protected?
Let's go free the snails!

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They are farmed and harvested, same as brocoli.

They are not logged.

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Not like broccoli at all. Broccoli at least is used to torture children (and those who never grow up like me) by forcing them to eat it.
The Christmas tree doesn't even go up the chimney.
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The Christmas tree doesn't even go up the chimney.
Try up the poop-chute.



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Could Greta be the new Agnetha?
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Not like broccoli at all. Broccoli at least is used to torture children (and those who never grow up like me) by forcing them to eat it.
I believe broccoli was on the list of British home grown food that wouldn't be affected by a hard Brexit and no
doubt would have remained in plentiful supply, bearing in mind the number of children who turn their noses up at it.
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Re: Climate change/Greta Thunberg [merged threads]

This is a stroke of genius

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/03/greta...nder-11998468/
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Re: Climate change/Greta Thunberg [merged threads]

It seems like Greta has more humour than some people are willing to give her credit for. See her response to Trump's incredible twitter too.

Perhaps she's well aware of how she might come across to some people and doesn't really care.

She never managed to piss me off personally. I (kind of) like her irreverence and lack of compromising skills. I find it a bit naive, but cute. She'll learn. I don't worry too much for her, I suppose she'll do something about her life/studies too.


Now, if we focus too much on teen activist Greta we might miss out on more important things re. environment and environmentalist movement.

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I just find the whole situation bemusing, mainly on behalf of how counterproductive her campaign is to fighting climate change. You can only push so hard on a spring before it pushes back, and that's what she's doing every time she blames people of my generation for her struggle.

She says that we stole her childhood, well I wouldn't mind having swapped my childhood for hers! She may have learned a thing or two about sustainability had she been brought up in a tiny terraced house, where if we were cold we were told to grab a blanket or put on another jumper. Where we shared clothes and bathwater. Or where we had to return our old glass milk bottles. We didn't take 15 million pound yachts (with back up diesel motor) across to the US, we went to Butlins! None of this was due to having any regard for the environment, but basically because my parents didn't have much money.
That's one way of interpreting what she's doing. Living that kind of life when you did live it (like the rest of humankind at that time), doesn't have much to do with what's happening today or for a good few decades. I think she blames the lack of reactions of certain generations, not every individual in particular. Reacting strongly to Greta's persona and not to what she and others like her have to say it's a way of dealing with things we can't control - other people and their opinions, annoying huh, but this is not what this movement is all about and it actually concerns all of us, especially the next generations as they'll have to fix lots of things.

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I believe broccoli was on the list of British home grown food that wouldn't be affected by a hard Brexit and no
doubt would have remained in plentiful supply, bearing in mind the number of children who turn their noses up at it.
Broccoli makes one fart. Increasing greenhouse gases.!
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Broccoli makes one fart. Increasing greenhouse gases.!
But the UK's self sufficient in it, growing broccoli that is not the farting.

In my opinion on a scale of 1 to 10, I would put the after effects of having an Indian Curry at the
top of making you fart and producing greenhouse gases.
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The Swiss are one the worlds leaders in waste production. On average pp 700 kg a year.
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After the Europeans bitching about and condemning the people in countries where they chop down the rainforest all year long, they now log thousands and thousands of firs to turn them into Christmas trees for a day or two.

I was kind of sad - when passing the rows of them outside Migros - to think that most of them won't even make it into a living room.
Imagine how much fresh air they could have produced being left in the ground.

Priorities, eih?

January 1st the bitching about those bastards ruining the rainforest will resume. Until then, toodle-pip!.
Yes. But these trees are grown in special plantations for such trees. They are not cut wildly from the forest. But yes. Its the typical consumer waste of most of us.
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