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Old 23.09.2019, 19:05
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The truth is my English is pretty bad lately..I think it's good to have someone like Tom keep me in check,.
I think you write well - especially given that English is a second language
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Old 23.09.2019, 19:24
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On balance, though, she did top Trump on overall voting numbers by quite some margin so I think it's not the full picture to say she scored a political own goal with the deplorables thing, because the overall voting system ultimately saw Trump win through numbers of states.

I'm not discussing whether that's wrong or right, just that everyone seems to be jumping on Clinton not sitting in the White House today because she didn't get enough physical votes.

If you want to be an entitled, privileged ratbag and insult most of your voting base to their faces, clearly you have to do it using the tried and tested medium of Donald Trump.
As I said previously, her core supporters probably applauded those words, whereas her core detractors were angered by them. In other words, it didn’t change that much overall in terms of who wanted to vote for who but it depended the divide . That was of course what Trump was doing too, but by jumping on the bandwagon and imitating him she essentially sent the message that it was the right thing to do .
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The truth is my English is pretty bad lately.
It's still better than Tom's Romanian!
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Old 23.09.2019, 19:29
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How's your Romanian, Tom?
A friend and I almost got into a fight in Romania once. I wasn’t sure what it was about but a group of tough guys in a bar were shouting things at us and one of them intentionally knocked our drinks over. Actually speaking English to them defused the situation and they apologized . I never did work out want it was they thought we were but they were very apologetic after that and said sorry about 20 times and payed for our drinks .

So maybe there is something in this privilege thing .
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Old 23.09.2019, 19:46
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A friend and I almost got into a fight in Romania once. I wasn’t sure what it was about but a group of tough guys in a bar were shouting things at us and one of them intentionally knocked our drinks over. Actually speaking English to them defused the situation and they apologized . I never did work out want it was they thought we were but they were very apologetic after that and said sorry about 20 times and payed for our drinks .

So maybe there is something in this privilege thing .
Until the privilege line it looks like you have huge balls.
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Old 23.09.2019, 20:06
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A friend and I almost got into a fight in Romania once. I wasn’t sure what it was about but a group of tough guys in a bar were shouting things at us and one of them intentionally knocked our drinks over. Actually speaking English to them defused the situation and they apologized . I never did work out want it was they thought we were but they were very apologetic after that and said sorry about 20 times and payed for our drinks .

So maybe there is something in this privilege thing .
All righty, coming from England it shouldn't have really surprised you?
"Tough" (after all, tough guys never apologise, do they), more like drunken guys at a bar who confused you with someone else, who would have thought.


Could we please return to that perceived privilege thing? I think it's more about perception than anything else.
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Old 23.09.2019, 20:15
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Well if coming from Yorkshire gets a positive point, you must get triple coming from Lancashire.
Enter Slammer from Blackburn, a place so far down the foodchain that even the pound shops are closing.
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Old 23.09.2019, 23:16
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Enter Slammer from Blackburn, a place so far down the foodchain that even the pound shops are closing.
But The Rock Inn at Tockholes has gone posh. Could always be worse. We could come from Chorley

Edit: The Mash report joined in with most UK news channels last night by filming in Wigan as an example of a deprived town. I guess nobody told them about Chorley.
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Old 24.09.2019, 08:36
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Enter Slammer from Blackburn, a place so far down the foodchain that even the pound shops are closing.
Born there and in keeping with this thread went to privileged school there. Thankfully never lived there.
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But The Rock Inn at Tockholes has gone posh. Could always be worse. We could come from Chorley

Edit: The Mash report joined in with most UK news channels last night by filming in Wigan as an example of a deprived town. I guess nobody told them about Chorley.
I did have the dubious honour of living in Chorley for a few years as a child. I’d take it over any of the East Lancashire towns of similar size. Haven’t spent enough time in Wigan to comment. Holland’s pies used to be top notch though.
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Old 24.09.2019, 08:50
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A friend and I almost got into a fight in Romania once. I wasn’t sure what it was about but a group of tough guys in a bar were shouting things at us and one of them intentionally knocked our drinks over. Actually speaking English to them defused the situation and they apologized . I never did work out want it was they thought we were...
Once they realised you were English, they just felt pity for you, realising that whatever set them off, wasn't your fault.
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Old 24.09.2019, 09:18
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Born there and in keeping with this thread went to privileged school there. Thankfully never lived there.
Stonyhurst?

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I did have the dubious honour of living in Chorley for a few years as a child. I’d take it over any of the East Lancashire towns of similar size.
And I'd take most of them over Godalming. Lived there for a while and whilst it's a pretty place to visit for a couple of hours, it was like the land that time forgot when we lived there. It was just one natural ballache (disaster feels too strong a word) after another and totally dead after 7pm.
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Old 24.09.2019, 09:32
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Stonyhurst?

And I'd take most of them over Godalming. Lived there for a while and whilst it's a pretty place to visit for a couple of hours, it was like the land that time forgot when we lived there. It was just one natural ballache (disaster feels too strong a word) after another and totally dead after 7pm.
Stoneyhurst is in Clitheroe. QEGS (although it appears to have changed beyond all recognition since my time there in the mid-90s - now fully co-ed, none-fee paying and none-selective).
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Old 24.09.2019, 09:37
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All these towns have something in common - they're in England. Do Scots or the Welsh also tease each other about this stuff or is it an English thing?

And how do you score if you were born and lived in Stratford for the most part of your youth? (afraid to find out )

Btw, I meant Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England.
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Old 24.09.2019, 10:27
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All these towns have something in common - they're in England. Do Scots or the Welsh also tease each other about this stuff or is it an English thing?
Yes, they do. If I tell a Scot that my nan was born in Govan, I always get told how rough it was. It used to be quite common (and defamatory) for people from certain places to be referred to as woolybacks, pie eaters and sheepshaggers. I'm told by my neighbour that the Swiss also have similar feelings about folk from different kantons, and he's from Apenzell. He says people from Basel look down on people from Apenzell as being a bit simple.
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Yes, they do. If I tell a Scot that my nan was born in Govan, I always get told how rough it was. It used to be quite common (and defamatory) for people from certain places to be referred to as woolybacks, pie eaters and sheepshaggers. I'm told by my neighbour that the Swiss also have similar feelings about folk from different kantons, and he's from Apenzell. He says people from Basel look down on people from Apenzell as being a bit simple.
Haha, everybody looks down on people from Apenzell.. When it was that story with some youth wearing KKK costumes, I asked one of my friends' daughter who is in Gymy now what does she think - do they have an excuse for not knowing it's highly offensive, and she said smth. along the line - Well, they might have if they are from Apenzell..
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I'm told by my neighbour that the Swiss also have similar feelings about folk from different kantons, and he's from Apenzell. He says people from Basel look down on people from Apenzell as being a bit simple.
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Haha, everybody looks down on people from Apenzell..
Worse than that! You are both taking the P out of Appenzell...




I'll get my coat.
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Old 24.09.2019, 10:39
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Worse than that! You are both taking the P out of Appenzell...




I'll get my coat.
Lol, no, I like Appenzell - with both p's! Am I weird? I am not able to write anymore, in any language it seems. I'll take my coat.
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Old 24.09.2019, 10:40
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Worse than that! You are both taking the P out of Appenzell...



I'll get my coat.

yes sandgrounder that comment was rather cheesy...






I'll get my coat too...
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Old 24.09.2019, 10:41
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Lol, no, I like Appenzell - with both p's! Am I weird? I am not able to write anymore, in any language it seems. I'll take my coat.
It's "I'll get my coat"

Only joking. I think your English is great!
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Old 24.09.2019, 10:43
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Lol, no, I like Appenzell - with both p's! Am I weird? I am not able to write anymore, in any language it seems. I'll take my coat.
As McTavge said in another thread, I like the people I've met from Appenzell (thanks for the correction). My German teacher, neighbour and several friends are from that kanton and their sense of humour feels familiar to me.
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