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Old 31.10.2019, 14:34
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Barcelona at the moment

Does anybody know if all the madness has calmed down over there yet? I'm supposed to be there in 2 weeks and the news has tapered off.

I know the simple answer is just google it, but even filtering for news in the past week gives you rehashed stories from a week+ ago.

The most recent I could find was that they've banned the app the protestors were using to congregate, but no mention if they are even doing so now. All other news points to football stuff, so maybe I'm just inept in my search terms.
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Does anybody know if all the madness has calmed down over there yet? I'm supposed to be there in 2 weeks and the news has tapered off.

I know the simple answer is just google it, but even filtering for news in the past week gives you rehashed stories from a week+ ago.

The most recent I could find was that they've banned the app the protestors were using to congregate, but no mention if they are even doing so now. All other news points to football stuff, so maybe I'm just inept in my search terms.
Hi, I am from Barcelona and go there every two weeks. Of course things are not fully predictable but there is no danger for tourists at all.

Protests are calming down a bit and limited to a few streets that you can easily avoid. (It is more used by a few hundreds of people as media propaganda...) The rest of the city is not being affected at all...

Do you know where you will be staying? Avoid vía Laietana, urquinaona or catalunya-universitat... (things are also ok there but in case of protests these are the areas where you can see some incidents...


Another thing is the political view of all these things... a childish local expression of global populism like Brexit, Trump, Salvini, etc... bloody nationalism
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Old 01.11.2019, 09:16
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Thank you for the advice.
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Re: Barcelona at the moment

I was there at its height two years ago. If anything, it made the trip more interesting and inspiring. Make sure you spend time in Gràcia.
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Old 01.11.2019, 10:23
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Almost always with riots and such you can just walk away 3 streets and drink a beer outside without noticing anything going on.
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Old 01.11.2019, 10:30
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I was there at its height two years ago. If anything, it made the trip more interesting and inspiring. Make sure you spend time in Gràcia.
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Almost always with riots and such you can just walk away 3 streets and drink a beer outside without noticing anything going on.
I'm of two minds about this, as long as it's a little further away and I can walk away, I should be ok. On the other hand I'm terrible for sticking my nose in and have in the past walked towards the loud noises instead. I'll just keep to the other sides of town and it'll be fine.
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On the other hand I'm terrible for sticking my nose in and have in the past walked towards the loud noises instead.
Ditto. I'm straight down there with my camera. A mate who moved to Barcelona in Summer has said the same as Istcantabria. It's literally a couple of streets.
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Another thing is the political view of all these things... a childish local expression of global populism like Brexit, Trump, Salvini, etc... bloody nationalism
Indeed, bloody Spanish nationalism and their need to suffocate everyone else.
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Re: Barcelona at the moment

I live about 30km south of Barcelona. As others have said, it is difficult to predict the various protests/strikes, but Wife and I avoid Barcelona like the plague.
The main reason for this is the crime. Barcelona has become the pickpocket capital of Europe and more violent crime is on the rise. I thought Bellevue and Zurich station were bad... but Barcelona is off the charts for petty theft. Thieves have even started casing 5* hotels for tourists wearing expensive watches and literally ripping them off their wrists.
If you are coming as a tourist, I would advise voting with your Euros and go somewhere else. The local gov't/police need a to know that tourists will go elsewhere until laws are changed and the city cleans itself up.
If you still want to come, be careful where you go, especially at night.
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I live about 30km south of Barcelona. As others have said, it is difficult to predict the various protests/strikes, but Wife and I avoid Barcelona like the plague.
The main reason for this is the crime. Barcelona has become the pickpocket capital of Europe and more violent crime is on the rise. I thought Bellevue and Zurich station were bad... but Barcelona is off the charts for petty theft. Thieves have even started casing 5* hotels for tourists wearing expensive watches and literally ripping them off their wrists.
If you are coming as a tourist, I would advise voting with your Euros and go somewhere else. The local gov't/police need a to know that tourists will go elsewhere until laws are changed and the city cleans itself up.
If you still want to come, be careful where you go, especially at night.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll bring my cheapy watch and try look broke. Standard anti-pickpockety stuff like no obvious tourist gear and keep things in inside pockets. I'm not going only for tourism so I can't exactly not be in the city. I suppose I could reconsider the extra days I took for tourist stuff but the flights are booked at this point.
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Old 04.11.2019, 15:07
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll bring my cheapy watch and try look broke. Standard anti-pickpockety stuff like no obvious tourist gear and keep things in inside pockets. I'm not going only for tourism so I can't exactly not be in the city. I suppose I could reconsider the extra days I took for tourist stuff but the flights are booked at this point.
In my view all you need is a little bit of street sense. I wouldn't let fear of pick pocketing put me off seeing the sights of this wonderful and unique city. I've done Barcelona many many times (including walking through allegedly shady areas after dark) and have never been pick-pocketed (but had a near miss once when somebody tried to snatch my bag while I was sitting down having a coffee). I would advise to use cash as far as possible so as to avoid funny stuff with credit cards. Keep valuables out of sight and don't act like an obvious tourist and you'll be fine.
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Old 04.11.2019, 15:14
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll bring my cheapy watch and try look broke. Standard anti-pickpockety stuff like no obvious tourist gear and keep things in inside pockets. I'm not going only for tourism so I can't exactly not be in the city. I suppose I could reconsider the extra days I took for tourist stuff but the flights are booked at this point.
Have been there this autumn and nothing happened. I don't look broke, I just use my common sense around crowded places. Btw, don't keep your wallet in your back pocket, as my OH usually does...
Be careful around La Rambla, it's awfully, suffocatingly crowded.
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In my view all you need is a little bit of street sense. I wouldn't let fear of pick pocketing put me off seeing the sights of this wonderful and unique city. I've done Barcelona many many times (including walking through allegedly shady areas after dark) and have never been pick-pocketed (but had a near miss once when somebody tried to snatch my bag while I was sitting down having a coffee). I would advise to use cash as far as possible so as to avoid funny stuff with credit cards. Keep valuables out of sight and don't act like an obvious tourist and you'll be fine.
Not to worry, I've no intention of letting pickpockets be an issue to my plans, I've travelled plenty to the good and the bad so I don't feel a fool about these things. I've been to the city a few times over the last few years, my concern was the protests/riots that were there and how bad they were or could be. My fears have been assuaged on hearing it's localised to certain areas.
On a side note, I don't usually wear a handbag and probably won't be starting any time soon.

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Have been there this autumn and nothing happened. I don't look broke, I just use my common sense around crowded places. Btw, don't keep your wallet in your back pocket, as my OH usually does...
Be careful around La Rambla, it's awfully, suffocatingly crowded.
I'll admit to finding it very hard to switch to front pocket carrying a wallet, I'll be good in the morning and have it there, the second I've used it, it ends up slipping into the back pocket again.
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Re: Barcelona at the moment

Everyone thinks that they can avoid it by just being "street smart", and for the most part I have done so myself. However, the problem has gotten much worse over the last 2 yrs, so I warn all friends and family visiting that it is a REAL problem. If anyone gets in your personal space, consider it an attack. Minimize what you carry and be extremely vigilant. The pickpockets who prey on Barcelona tourists are "military grade!"

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In my view all you need is a little bit of street sense. I wouldn't let fear of pick pocketing put me off seeing the sights of this wonderful and unique city. I've done Barcelona many many times (including walking through allegedly shady areas after dark) and have never been pick-pocketed (but had a near miss once when somebody tried to snatch my bag while I was sitting down having a coffee). I would advise to use cash as far as possible so as to avoid funny stuff with credit cards. Keep valuables out of sight and don't act like an obvious tourist and you'll be fine.
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I live about 30km south of Barcelona. As others have said, it is difficult to predict the various protests/strikes, but Wife and I avoid Barcelona like the plague.
The main reason for this is the crime. Barcelona has become the pickpocket capital of Europe and more violent crime is on the rise. I thought Bellevue and Zurich station were bad... but Barcelona is off the charts for petty theft. Thieves have even started casing 5* hotels for tourists wearing expensive watches and literally ripping them off their wrists.
If you are coming as a tourist, I would advise voting with your Euros and go somewhere else. The local gov't/police need a to know that tourists will go elsewhere until laws are changed and the city cleans itself up.
If you still want to come, be careful where you go, especially at night.
When we were in Barcelona a few years ago, we were walking through the Gothic Quarter and there was a young, Chinese (?) guy talking to the police. I guess someone had stolen his backpack while he was sitting on a bench. All his money and his passport, etc. were in it. We felt so bad for him.
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Re: Barcelona at the moment

I got my bag stolen in a bar in Zurich, and I got beaten in the streets of Lausanne by a gang of masked men who wanted to steal my wallet and phone. I didn't think this could happen in Switzerland so I got over-confident. Shit can happen anywhere if you let them do it.
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Indeed, bloody Spanish nationalism and their need to suffocate everyone else.
Not sure if you want to fall on the trap and believe that Catalan nationalism is great and nice and inclusive... omg what a bunch of idiots...

I hate all of them, and of course, Spanish nationalists included...
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Be careful around La Rambla, it's awfully, suffocatingly crowded.
Seriously! Spent some of my college years (20 years ago) in Barcelona and talk about a neighborhood changing. It’s awful! On another note, my favorite falafel place still exists off of La Rambla, I took my husband there late at night to introduce it to him. He had a hypoglycemic blackout and passed out in the middle of the street, a group of migrants/who you would think would pickpocket him rushed to his aid and even went into the restaurant to get him water. Meanwhile, my laptop was stolen from my backpack on the train home from Zurich the other day, in first class. Be vigilant everywhere.
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It is not about occurrence of something bad , it is about probability of occurrence something bad.

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