[Poll] BER or Brexit?

aSwissInTheUS · #1 31.10.2019, 19:37

Propely the two things which have been postponed the most: BER and Brexit.

So the question is what will happen sooner?

The opening of Berlins new Airport BER (scheduled 2020 http://www.istderberschonfertig.de/)
The end of Brexit either by an actual hard or soft Brexit or withdrawing of leave notice.

Poll closes on December 12, 2019 the date of the UK General Elections.

bowlie · #2 31.10.2019, 19:52

Sorry to be a pedant but BER already exists. It is the 3 letter code for the metropolitan Berlin area. I.e. the code designates any and all airports for Berlin. Each Berlin airport has its own three letter designator (TXL, SXF)

We won’t know, until it opens, what the IATA or ICAO codes will be.

Three letter codes are in (very) short supply and IATA doesn’t like to waste them.

bowlie · #3 31.10.2019, 19:56

The new airport will happen first. BREXIT won’t happen in my lifetime.

st2lemans · #4 31.10.2019, 20:11

	Quote:	bowlie
	The new airport will happen first. BREXIT won’t happen in my lifetime.

Planning to die in the next tree months?

Tom

yello · #5 31.10.2019, 21:46

What a nice way to read the news that Brexit is being postponed again ;-)

bowlie · #6 31.10.2019, 21:59

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Planning to die in the next tree months? Tom

Months don’t grow on trees.

Treverus · #7 31.10.2019, 22:00

Stuttgart 21.

curley · #8 31.10.2019, 22:11

That will be one tough competition and neither will be in any way inferior to the other.

Make sure you will have great grandchildren who can cash in your bets.

robBob · #9 31.10.2019, 23:28

Who cares?

swissotter · #10 31.10.2019, 23:41

	Quote:	Treverus
	Stuttgart 21.

was just there last month, still messy but i was travelling by car after (the train fm ZH went smoothly)

(oh and treverus, SG-KL rail...>_<)

Troublawesome · #11 01.11.2019, 00:23

	Quote:	robBob
	Who cares?

The OP.

aSwissInTheUS · #12 01.11.2019, 02:54

	Quote:	bowlie
	Sorry to be a pedant but BER already exists. It is the 3 letter code for the metropolitan Berlin area. We won’t know, until it opens, what the IATA or ICAO codes will be.

We know that the airports 3 letter code will be BER. Why? First, because you could book flights to the BER airport. Second, because you can look it up on the IATA website https://www.iata.org/publications/pa...de-search.aspx

But you are partially right. BER is also the 3 letter code for the corresponding metropolitan area. A similar situation exists with LAX and also with ATL

bowlie · #13 01.11.2019, 09:09

Neither Los Angeles nor Atlanta have more than one commercial airport. But look at NYC - JFK/EWR/LGA, or WAS - IAD/DCA.

The new Berlin airport will either be assigned SXF (as it shares a runway with Scönfield) or it will have its own code. It will be included in the Berlin Metropolitan area (BER) but it will have its own airport code.

And it wont be BBI as that is used by Bhubaneswar, India.

The need for the two types of codes is so an agent can ask for flights to a specific airport or for all airports.

And apologies for being such a pedant ...

omtatsat · #14 01.11.2019, 09:12

	Quote:	aSwissInTheUS
	Propely the two things which have been postponed the most: BER and Brexit. So the question is what will happen sooner? The opening of Berlins new Airport BER (scheduled 2020 http://www.istderberschonfertig.de/) The end of Brexit either by an actual hard or soft Brexit or withdrawing of leave notice. Poll closes on December 12, 2019 the date of the UK General Elections.

I could not give a damn about the Berlin airport

curley · #15 01.11.2019, 11:11

	Quote:	aSwissInTheUS
	We know that the airports 3 letter code will be BER. Why? First, because you could book flights to the BER airport. Second, because you can look it up on the IATA website https://www.iata.org/publications/pa...de-search.aspx But you are partially right. BER is also the 3 letter code for the corresponding metropolitan area. A similar situation exists with LAX and also with ATL

And where did you end up when you did?

bowlie · #16 01.11.2019, 11:19

	Quote:	curley
	And where did you end up when you did?

Either TXL or SXF because the new airport doesn't yet have a code ...

aSwissInTheUS · #17 01.11.2019, 12:56

	Quote:	bowlie
	Either TXL or SXF because the new airport doesn't yet have a code ...

You are really obtuse or pigheaded. The airport has allready a code, BER, as shown on the IATA website I linked. But also as seen on the airports website itself https://www.berlin-airport.de/de/ges.../ber/index.php . But here is a deal, once it is open for passenger traffic, and it is still BER you owe me a BEER at the BER.

PS: The LAX and ATL metropolitan areas have more than one airport.

roegner · #18 01.11.2019, 13:01

	Quote:	aSwissInTheUS
	You are really obtuse or pigheaded. The airport has allready a code, BER, as shown on the IATA website I linked. But also as seen on the airports website itself https://www.berlin-airport.de/de/ges.../ber/index.php . But here is a deal, once it is open for passenger traffic, and it is still BER you owe me a BEER at the BER. PS: The LAX and ATL metropolitan areas have more than one airport.

Still, you fly to TXL or SXF, not BER. Even if they use the code when booking. Probably a remnant from 2013 when they had scheduled to open that airport.....

It would be a huge issue if a commercial flight lands at that new airport.... as TXL will have to be closed 6 months after that. And we all know how open that new airport is.

aSwissInTheUS · #19 01.11.2019, 14:34

	Quote:	roegner
	Still, you fly to TXL or SXF, not BER. Even if they use the code when booking.

You cannot book a flight to BER because, there is no flight to BER. But that does not mean that the not yet opened airport does not have the IATA 3 letter code BER. And as said BER is also the code for the corresponding metropolitan area which includes BER, TXL, and SXF. As there are only flights to TXL or SXF, only does are shown when you use BER (metropolitan area) to lookup flights but none to BER (airport) as there are currently no flights to the not yet opened airport.

bowlie · #20 01.11.2019, 14:49

LON = LGW, LHR, LTN, LCY, SOU. You can search for flights to LON, but you can only book flights to LGW, LHR, LTN, LCY or SOU. You can’t book a flight to LON.

You baggage tag won’t show LON, it will show the airport

IATA hasn’t assigned a code, yet, for the new airport because it is not yet possible to book a flight there. Once you can IATA will assign a code, and it won’t be BER.

ONT = Ontario, CA, BUR = Burbank, LGB = Long Beach, none of which are in Los Angeles.