Prince Andrew = Pinocchio ??? - Page 6

RufusB · #**101** 09.12.2019, 01:24

	Quote:	doropfiz
	Ah, I see that I read your post incorrectly. I first thought you were saying that as long as an adult is not connected to a child in a position of authority, it's perfectly legal for an adult to have a sexual relationship with a child, in the UK. That shocked me. Now, I think you were referring not to children in general, but specifically to the UK age of consent, being 16. I wonder about the "position of authority or trust"... does that mean only formalised, professional authority or trust, e.g. teacher? Does being wealthy and powerful and having dazzled or tricked the child with grooming, equate to being in a position of trust over a 16 or 17-year-old? Is being a prince a postition of authority and trust?

Position of trust: teachers, the police, sports coaches, doctors, nurses, therapists, nannies, tutors, legal guardians etc. Basically anyone whose has a duty of care and who could reasonably be expected to be working closely with/spending one-on-one time with a minor and has a 'power" over them. My list is not-exhaustive.

Andrew is a wealthy man with powerful connections. It's a type of authority, if only that he was probably used to being obeyed/getting what he wanted.

TO I find your position of victim shaming to be somewhat blinkered and naive. Would you have the same view if that "mercenary and clued up"( I paraphrase) 17 year old was a member of your family? Do you understand what grooming and coercion are?

redbanner · #**102** 09.12.2019, 02:49

	Quote:	RufusB
	Position of trust: teachers, the police, sports coaches, doctors, nurses, therapists, nannies, tutors, legal guardians etc. Basically anyone whose has a duty of care and who could reasonably be expected to be working closely with/spending one-on-one time with a minor and has a 'power" over them. My list is not-exhaustive. Andrew is a wealthy man with powerful connections. It's a type of authority, if only that he was probably used to being obeyed/getting what he wanted. TO I find your position of victim shaming to be somewhat blinkered and naive. Would you have the same view if that "mercenary and clued up"( I paraphrase) 17 year old was a member of your family? Do you understand what grooming and coercion are?

I agree with what you are saying but it does not exclude the possibility of people being $$$ hungry later in life while they may have in fact enjoyed the experience at a younger age.

It reminds me a bit of the me-too discussion around Weinstein: too much focus on Weinstein, too much focus on the women who rejected his dubious offers, NOT enough focus on the women - all silent, of course - who said "sure, I'll bang you for that movie role". Where are all of them? Quietly enjoying their Oscar, Golden Globe, etc. I suspect...

EdwinNL · #**103** 07.01.2020, 09:07

Huge leak of info on Epsteins Autopsy for those interested.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-jef...es-2020-01-05/

(video might upset people who have problems keeping their breakfast in)

#**104** 07.01.2020, 09:28

	Quote:	EdwinNL
	Huge leak of info on Epsteins Autopsy for those interested. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-jef...es-2020-01-05/ (video might upset people who have problems keeping their breakfast in)

Colour me unsurprised. Gervais called it the other night

doropfiz · #**105** 08.05.2020, 22:39

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ki-chalet-debt - Fri 8 May 2020

Prince Andrew - and/or Sarah - to face legal case over reported £5m ski chalet debt.

The Duke of York is caught in a dispute over a Swiss chalet purchased with his former wife.

I seem to remember someone once posted here on EF, advertising services, writing that he had worked for them during their stays in Switzerland.