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Old 30.07.2008, 23:24
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The Restoration Of Democracy

I'd like to share this very interesting article with you, which shows how the Americans are trying to steal back their votes from the bush camp: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12152.html

In retrospective, I think the long lasting fierce primary campaign of the democrats was intended from the very beginning. In my opinion, the primary target was to register as many new voters on multiple fronts (Women, Youth, African American) as possible.

This article here strengthens my point even further: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_115900.html

The coming election will be an all out open war between the incumbent administration which has already prepared their next theft (see here: The Land of the (not quite) Free! ) and an unprecedented voter registration effort of those who want to restore democracy (this includes conservatives, libertarians and democrats).

This, in my eyes, most historic battle in American democracy is not reported by the media, but multiple actions on both sides indicate to it.

Here are previews of some of the coming movies focused on voting, which are due to release this fall (Actually August 1st).
All with one clear goal: To register as many new voters as possible.

Movie: [Stealing America: Vote by Vote]


Movie: [Swing Vote]
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This, in my eyes, most historic battle in American democracy is not reported by the media...

If you talk about "American democracy" you are already a victim. There is no democracy in America... and neither in many other places that claim to be democracies. Maybe America had democracy for periods of time after their 1776 revolution but certainly not since 1913.
If there had been democracy in America, America would not have entered World Wars 1 or 2. 85% of the population were firmly against going into either of those wars. But they went anyway. This piece of real history tells you why... (lower portion).

http://patbuchananbooks.com/pjb-mora...stian/#more-37

The situation has only gotten worse since then. But real democracy would certainly be worth fighting for.
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If you talk about "American democracy" you are already a victim. There is no democracy in America... and neither in many other places that claim to be democracies. Maybe America had democracy for periods of time after their 1776 revolution but certainly not since 1913.
If there had been democracy in America, America would not have entered World Wars 1 or 2. 85% of the population were firmly against going into either of those wars. But they went anyway. This piece of real history tells you why... (lower portion).

http://patbuchananbooks.com/pjb-mora...stian/#more-37

The situation has only gotten worse since then. But real democracy would certainly be worth fighting for.
I don't mean complete democracy as in "people can vote how much taxes they pay" but democracy as in "people can change the leadership of their nation".
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If you regard Pat Buchanan or Huffington as 'real history', then, as a (small d) democrat, you owe it to yourself to consider some other views.

Try Howard Zinn on American history (title is something like 'A People's History of the U.S.'), for starters, or for the more measured view, just about anything by Robert Dahl, one of *the* most prolific writers about American democracy.

You might like Benjamin Barber's Strong Democracy more [or, if you can find it, his first book called The Death of Communal Liberty (about GraubŁnden)] because it takes off from some of what the Swiss try to practice.

Last but not least, if you want to understand why George W. Bush is in the White House, read the book produced by two British journalists, John Micklethewait and Adrian Wooldridge, called The Right Nation: Why America is Different (Penguin, 2005).

Be informed. I think it's a better choice than being opinionated.

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I don't mean complete democracy as in "people can vote how much taxes they pay" but democracy as in "people can change the leadership of their nation".
Exactly that they can't do. The people get served two plates to choose from... both distasteful, both compromised and beholden to you know who... If you don't like either, you can abstain. That is not democracy... but a sham of it... for the purpose of pretending to the gullible that there IS democracy. Try to erase media propaganda and brainwashing... keep an open mind and have a critical attitude... then step back to see the whole forest.
As to taxes, they certainly can't vote how much they pay. Remember, Americans revolted against King George because he wanted to collect 3% taxes. Now they pay 10 to 20 times that and are much worse off with the new tyrants. Time for the original American spirit to be resurrected.
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If you regard Pat Buchanan or Huffington as 'real history', then, as a (small d) democrat, you owe it to yourself to consider some other views.
I have carefully considered all views and am looking for anything positive, as long as it's real. Looking at the facts, I must, sorry to say, find against you. If you see something democratic in pulling a nation into wars that 85% of its citizens oppose, then you have to educate me about it.
Maybe it's you who should be a little less opinionated in favor of the apologists for the status quo. They are plenty, make majority pseudo opinion, have thereby been failing to warn the people and allowing the whole mess to happen in the first place.
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