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Was the Brexit Referendum decided in the English Civil War ?

Well with Brexit Day on the 31st January only 7 days away now.

Lets reflect on why remaining in the EU lost it's appeal with the slim majority of British voters
who voted to leave the European Union in the Referendum back in 2016.
First of all was it because Brexit is sexy ? and by sexy I mean - did it strike a chord and really
appealed to many peoples hearts in what they can identify with and easily relate to,
whereas the desire to remain in the EU wasn't particularly appealing at all ?

Here I'm talking about the name given to all those Eurosceptic politicians who advocated
Brexit and campaigned vigorously for Britain to leave the EU versus those Pro-EU politicians
who campaigned for Britain to remain in the EU.

The Eurosceptics quickly became The Brexiteers both during and after the Referendum with
the most notorious and leading Eurosceptics being dubbed The Three Brexiteers;
the Pro-EU politicians, in contrast being dubbed The Remainers who were soon dubbed
The Remoaners.

Of course The Three Brexiteers hark back to the Alexandre Dumas novels, called The Three Musketeers,
that was made into popular films with the heroes dressed like The Cavaliers of the English Civil War.
The Remoaners you could easily call The Roundheads of Brexit and before you know it your easily
transported back to the English Civil War of the 1640's and the arguments that surrounded those
who supported and fought for the King, namely the royalist, Cavaliers and those who supported
and fought for Parliament, namely the Parliamentarians also called The Roundheads.

Without going into all the arguments and causes of The English Civil War, many historians and
most history teachers tend to summarise it as 'The Cavaliers were looked on and favoured
as being Romantic but wrong, in supporting a King who believed in the divine right of Kings,
to rule over his country without referring to Parlaiment versus The Roundheads ( composed
largely of unappealing Puritans ) who were right but vile; believing the King can
only rule if he defers to all matters relating to the running of the country to Parliament'

When the Royalists lost the English Civil War with the King deposed and beheaded, Parliament
reigned supreme with England becoming a Republic where the Puritans soon gained the upper
hand and put into action their promises for 'a new Jerusalem in England' saying Englands
better off without a King.

The Puritans new 'Jerusalem in England' being the banning of all festivals and any acts
of frivolilty and gaity, with largely two tone black and white clothes, dresses & frocks, plus
anything that might be deemed catholic in acts and taste, even Christmas was banned
during the Commonwealth period, with the Rule of the Major-Generals being impossed
across the country to impose and enforce their Puritan beliefs.

Of course this all this ended with The Restoration of the Monarchy in 1660.

Therefore if history repeats itself ( in a reverse sides way ) it could well be that the UK
will be restored to the EU, after a Second Referendum.



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Re: Was the Brexit Referendum decided in the English Civil War ?

A little bit early to be on the sherry isnít it?
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Re: Was the Brexit Referendum decided in the English Civil War ?

Brexit happened because the people have been dumbed down far enough to believe populist politics. Nothing else makes much sense.
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Brexit happened because the people have been dumbed down far enough to believe populist politics. Nothing else makes much sense.
Ah but didn't The Brexiteers become popular because of their romantic image whereas who ( in their right minds )
would want to be called a Remoaner all the time ?

Finally - it's doesn't really appeal to populists ( lack of romantic image, positive connetations, I can go for that )
to say, I'm for Remain !! does it.

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Re: Was the Brexit Referendum decided in the English Civil War ?

I don't want an other brexit thread.
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I don't want an other brexit thread.
Well your always welcome to talk about the English Civil War and Cavaliers & Roundheads if you want to ?

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Well your always welcome to talk about the English Civil War and Cavaliers & Roundheads if you want to ?
Wouldn't know what to say. The English civil war seems to be an ongoing thing, cavaliers to me are cars and roundheads I would have to google.
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