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Old 24.03.2020, 20:04
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RIP Albert Uderzo

One of the creators os Asterix.

(René Goscinny died in 1977)

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Old 24.03.2020, 20:19
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Re: RIP Albert Uderzo

A thought today too for one of my Lecturers at Leicester Poly- who was one of the two official translators into English- Derek Hockridge (or Hotlips as we called him for all sorts of reasons). Very hard to translate - lots of colloquial expressions, and bubble sounds- very difficult to make it sound right- helped him on many occasions. Also passed about 10 years ago.
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Old 24.03.2020, 20:25
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A thought today too for one of my Lecturers at Leicester Poly- who was one of the two official translators into English- Derek Hockridge (or Hotlips as we called him for all sorts of reasons). Very hard to translate - lots of colloquial expressions, and bubble sounds- very difficult to make it sound right- helped him on many occasions. Also passed about 10 years ago.
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Let's hope Assurancetourix will not sing sad songs.
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Re: RIP Albert Uderzo

My guess is one of the official translators of French speaking Asterix into English.
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Re: RIP Albert Uderzo

Yes, indeed- as most here on EF would have read Asterix in English and not the original French. Bubble sounds, as in not words, but sounds, in a cartoon put in a bubble! 'Paf' to be translated into 'slap' - most people don't realise sounds linked to actions are very different in different languages. Same for animals. Mooh in English for a cow, but 'meuh' in French. So yes, seeing the news about Uderzo reminded me of the days I helped Derek with translating Asterix into English and the long discussions we had.
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Yes, indeed- as most here on EF would have read Asterix in English and not the original French. Bubble sounds, as in not words, but sounds, in a cartoon put in a bubble! 'Paf' to be translated into 'slap' - most people don't realise sounds linked to actions are very different in different languages. Same for animals. Mooh in English for a cow, but 'meuh' in French. So yes, seeing the news about Uderzo reminded me of the days I helped Derek with translating Asterix into English and the long discussions we had.
Thank you for clarifying.
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Mea Culpa- I was not clear enough.

But try it is you can get your hands on any Asterix in 2 different languages and spend time comparing (great with kids) - the sounds and expressions and also character names- great fun. I first became aware of this with Tintin- and incensed that Milou was re-named Snowy, and Dupont and Dupont turned into the Thompson twins
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Mea Culpa- I was not clear enough.

But try it is you can get your hands on any Asterix in 2 different languages and spend time comparing (great with kids) - the sounds and expressions and also character names- great fun. I first became aware of this with Tintin- and incensed that Milou was re-named Snowy, and Dupont and Dupont turned into the Thompson twins
I know exactly what you mean. I often feel like a lot of great cultural references are completely lost when something gets translated for entertainment purposes.
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Let's hope Assurancetourix will not sing sad songs.
We know him here as Troubadix. Still share your hope
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And in these times, let‘s not forget the Gaulish village entertainer, Thankheavensfornetflix.
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Re: RIP Albert Uderzo

By a strange coincidence I bought a stack of Asterix books from UK eBay for a nostalgia trip and they arrived today in my 'milk box'!
Asterix and Cleopatra on my balcony in the sunshine this afternoon made a nice break - and totally agree about the brilliant translation.

It's ironic that just when we could all do with a cuddle we must keep apart.
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I have only read or watched it in French.

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Which is why I said 'most' Tom

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