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Old 29.04.2020, 14:11
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It's great for tourists but terrible for the people who live there with so many flats unavailable for what they were originally designated for - Residents.

I've used them and will continue to use them, but I'm a hypocrite chancer who will turn around and complain that there are too many AirBnbs in the town I'm living.
I used AirBnB as a time-rich and low income student back on 2013. Then the thing became popular and some places are even more expensive than a 4 star hotel.

As a full-time worker it doesn't make sense anymore. What's the point of traveling if you lose time getting the key, putting the dishes in the machine, and cleaning before you leave? There are more interesting things to do when you travel. In case of need, I can clean my home for free and enjoy the AirBnB experience

The effects on locals are devastating. AirBnB hosts are eager to tell you they double the income from renting to tourists compared to long-term rentals to locals. The outcome is no apartments for locals.

As CodPeace said, if there's demand the thing will revive. Albeit, I'd prefer the middleman to go bust (AirBnB).
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Old 29.04.2020, 14:25
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Re: Corona - The aftermath

I rely on being able to book cheap flights to Edinburgh as I have a house in Scotland I can neither sell nor rent, it's on a private gated development that subsided a few months after I moved to Basel. It's a protracted situation involving wrangling with a government authority and the developer that has gone on for over 4 years now involving court proceedings. At the moment I have to insure it as a holiday home and as a consequence I have to stay in it every 90 days. I had hoped to rent it out later this year once works are complete, but that probably isn't going to happen now.

Not everyone is using cheap flights to go on a p155 up in E Europe for a few days and to be honest I am sick of seeing both Mulhouse and Edinburgh airports
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Fair comment, but it has opened up Europe to people who would otherwise be unable to afford it.
I'm obviously talking about the civlised, couples or families, not "We're Boltan! We're barmy! We're on the p1ss tonight!" crowd.


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I used AirBnB as a time-rich and low income student back on 2013. Then the thing became popular and some places are even more expensive than a 4 star hotel.

As a full-time worker it doesn't make sense anymore. What's the point of traveling if you lose time getting the key, putting the dishes in the machine, and cleaning before you leave? There are more interesting things to do when you travel. In case of need, I can clean my home for free and enjoy the AirBnB experience

The effects on locals are devastating. AirBnB hosts are eager to tell you they double the income from renting to tourists compared to long-term rentals to locals. The outcome is no apartments for locals.

As CodPeace said, if there's demand the thing will revive. Albeit, I'd prefer the middleman to go bust (AirBnB).
The thing with cheap flights and AirBnBs is that both of them are amazing for mobility. I do want to hop over across the continent, why not, even if it is not for tourism but friends or conferences that would not be reimbursed. Mobility is really important for networking.

But. AirBnBs kill hotels which employ lot of local staff. If we close cheap flights, all the staff also loses jobs.

The only thing and Corona related is now the sanitation. Will the cheap flights be safe? I think I am more tempted to sleep at a hotel that gets rooms cleaned than somebody's private space. I also know people who rent AirBnBs that do not really care for keeping it clean and inhabitable.

I can't wait to be able to go home and see my capital city free of vomit that got for 3 decades delivered by beer bachelor and hen parties. Bus loads of tourists who care just for selfies and mafia selling fake soviet paraphernalia. If AirBnBs close, people will actually move out of their garages and start living in their own apartments, I hope.
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Old 29.04.2020, 17:47
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Apropos AirBNB, I see another thing that we should rethink in the future. Cheap flights. What purpose do they serve really? You can buy a 50 EUR flight Spain to Poland just for the weekend to grab few beers and spend 60 EUR at some AirBNB. Sure, it's great experience, it's cheap but what value does it bring compared to the pollution we make and destruction of our environment? Make air travel normal price again instead of 10 cheap flights going places we should have 2 normal price one.
It sounds nice on the surface, but such a move would create an even bigger gap between the haves and the havenots. Flights only for the rich, like back in the day. EasyJet and others like it have made getting away a reality for those who would otherwise not be able to see anywhere cool. When my parents were my age, the only option was road trips in the USA. No way could they afford plane tickets, even just for the two of them.

Even if you take vacationers out of it, cheap flights have made it easier for families that are spread out to be able to see each other. That's a good thing, that we're able to stay connected with each other.
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Old 29.04.2020, 18:03
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I used AirBnB as a time-rich and low income student back on 2013. Then the thing became popular and some places are even more expensive than a 4 star hotel.

As a full-time worker it doesn't make sense anymore. What's the point of traveling if you lose time getting the key, putting the dishes in the machine, and cleaning before you leave? There are more interesting things to do when you travel. In case of need, I can clean my home for free and enjoy the AirBnB experience

AirBnBs are fantastic if you've got a large family. We're going to places and doing things that we would never have done with hotels.

I've given up on hotels - how a hotel thinks it's acceptable to put a family with children in two rooms at separate ends of a hotel and on different floors I don't know.
With airBnb we can book an apartment where there's lots of space and we canb buy local food and eat-in with a few games in the evening when the children are tired of being out all day.

If hotels can't adapt to peoples' needs then perhaps they deserve to go under?

There are Apartment hotels springing up so it's not all bad and we use those too.

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The effects on locals are devastating. AirBnB hosts are eager to tell you they double the income from renting to tourists compared to long-term rentals to locals. The outcome is no apartments for locals.
Perhaps when the hotels close down, developers could use that prime real estate to build more apartments?

There needs to be some middle ground.
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Old 29.04.2020, 20:01
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Re: Corona - The aftermath

I confess I don't really like hotels as I like to do my own thing and go with the flow when I'm away. I don't like things like regimented breakfast times and I'm quite happy to cook on 2 or 3 evenings when we're away if we don't feel like eating out. When we do use hotels we're fine with something that's basic, low cost and clean. I'm not into deluxe 4 or 5 star places.
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Old 30.04.2020, 13:05
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Re: Corona - The aftermath

The economic impact of this is minimal but celebrity meltdowns are always entertaining. Ironically, the guy calling for freedom makes life at home quite enjoyable https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...earnings-2020/
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I am thinking nature is really enjoying this rest
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Easyjet to restructure, 30% of jobs to go, so @5000
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The economic impact of this is minimal..
Of what..The lockdown?

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..but celebrity meltdowns are always entertaining. Ironically, the guy calling for freedom makes life at home quite enjoyable https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...earnings-2020/
Do you want to bet he will move to CH eventually? I also think he might get into US politics, although he has probably already put his foot in the door.

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Yes. We've been abusing it for a very long time.
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I'd say nature does not care, it will change like it always has done. We are enjoying it since it keeps nature a little longer in the way we humans want it to be.
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Coronavirus Phobias the aftershocks on peoples mental health

Not sure whether this has been discussed or highlighted before but no doubt one of the aftershocks of the pandemic
are its affects on your mental health and that of you, your family, children and loved ones as a result of the
precautions, lockdowns and restrictions arising from the Coronavirus pandemic.

This would have naturally had a real detrimental affect on the health of the hypochondriacs amongst us whose
irrational fears would have been magnified and gone into overdrive as a result of the pandemic.

Naturally the concern when we eventually come out of the pandemic; thanks to the vaccine innoculations, etc
are that although it might not eliminate the virus altogether from our lives; it would at least have reduced it down
to the same threat level of seasonal flu; is that some people cannot shake off the phobias arising
from it.

I've no doubt that Psychiatrists and other mental health practitioners will have a busy time as we come
out of the pandemic, as a result of issues within the family who's members cannot shake off irrational and
bordering on the absurd behavior that are becoming a concern to other members of the family.

BBC News - Mental Health anxiety, the fear of illness making people quit jobs and move home
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Re: Coronavirus Phobias the aftershocks on peoples mental health

It's not just phobia, it's also a common sense. You know, there are jobs incurring high risks (working in nuclear facilities, on oil platforms, but even more common as being a fireman, etc) which are avoided by most of the population. The thing is that currently any job requiring contact with clients falls also into this group. If the virus is going to stay with us, I bet all client facing jobs will become harder to recruit to as the next generation will avoid that path in their life.
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Re: Coronavirus Phobias the aftershocks on peoples mental health

Dear John Wiliam, while the subject you're bringing up this time surely is of interest, my first reaction was whether we need to start worrying about you when covid is over? This is at least the tenth covid thread you started - how will the aftershock affect you when the subject is gone?

You gotta live a little
It is totally possible without crowds of people around you.

Okay, fair enough, marton solved that problem for himself after 5 years with his "after Trump" thread when Biden was voted in. You planning the same?
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Re: Coronavirus Phobias the aftershocks on peoples mental health

I guess we have to be a bit resilient. There's people who have lost all in earthquakes, wars or accidents like the one in Lebanon last year.

Being mentally affected by doing home office, not going to restaurants and drinking wine from my cellar bought before the pandemic....I don't know, first world problems? Also, being affected after the problem ends?
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I guess we have to be a bit resilient. There's people who have lost all in earthquakes, wars or accidents like the one in Lebanon last year.

Being mentally affected by doing home office, not going to restaurants and drinking wine from my cellar bought before the pandemic....I don't know, first world problems? Also, being affected after the problem ends?
Am still suffering the phobia of running out of TP.
Those enduring months of empty shelves have left me scared shitless.
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Dear John Wiliam, while the subject you're bringing up this time surely is of interest, my first reaction was whether we need to start worrying about you when covid is over? This is at least the tenth covid thread you started - how will the aftershock affect you when the subject is gone?

You gotta live a little
It is totally possible without crowds of people around you.

Okay, fair enough, marton solved that problem for himself after 5 years with his "after Trump" thread when Biden was voted in. You planning the same?
Why not start a new thread ? there are many facets to the way our lives have changed or will change
as result of recent & ongoing events whether it be Covid, climate change, the challenges facing
democracy and society, the after effects of the 2008 Financial crisis, not to mention Trump & Brexit -
have you never been in a College or University debating society before ?
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This would have naturally had a real detrimental affect on the health of the hypochondriacs amongst us whose irrational fears would have been magnified and gone into overdrive as a result of the pandemic.
I have health anxiety (I mainly tend to freak out about possible cancer symptoms, but I have been convinced that I have various conditions) - but Covid doesn't worry me at all

That is catching Covid doesn't worry me - the covid restrictions impact on my life (income/work, travel, family contact) has sent my anxiety through the roof.
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Am still suffering the phobia of running out of TP.
Those enduring months of empty shelves have left me scared shitless.
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Why not start a new thread ? there are many facets to the way our lives have changed or will change
as result of recent & ongoing events whether it be Covid, climate change, the challenges facing democracy and society, the after effects of the 2008 Financial crisis, not to mention Trump & Brexit -
have you never been in a College or University debating society before ?
There you go again, listing life events as if the ups and downs, the challenges and constant changes were something unusual. I'm beginning to get jealous of all these people who are taken by surprise of all this action. Or maybe not. My life was full of ups and downs and actually thanks to covid it slowed down remarkably, became kind of relaxed as it never had been before. What a chance to recharge energy. And how blessed we are here!

Debating society on an internet forum? At college, did you also groan at the first co-student who said something that didn't fit the tiny square of your view?

You wanna talk about aftershocks? Talk to people who actually went through corona at the hospital and fought for their lives, to people who escaped a tsunami by a foot or two, to people who got kidnapped and held hostage by the Taliban (or similar kind people) somewhere in the middle of nowhere to just give a few examples.
NAME the real challenges, LISTEN to people who escaped death by an inch or try to every day.
This pseudo-intellectual keyboard blabla with pizza in hand and a beer on the desk about general <<Covid, climate change, the challenges facing democracy and society, the after effects of the 2008 Financial crisis, not to mention Trump & Brexit>> has become an annoying background noise made by people who seem not to have a life.

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